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Since: Dec 06, 2006 Posts: 147
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:43 pm
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Varizo,
I have been reading your posts and discussion with T-bone.
Could you let me know what the titles were of Patrick's books? Liber what?
However, regardless of the titles, trying to summon Leviathan is not a very
positive thing to do. Also, everything you write about Patrick points
towards sexuality. Trust me, he thinks of you in a sexual manner.
You know I am not here to judge, and I wish for you to be happy; with
Kristy, with Darren, with who-ever. But be careful about trusting Patrick.
I have many premonitions, and I feel things about people, and like it or
not, it is just wise to be on guard about Patrick. Just be careful, V. It
won't hurt you to be careful.
I KNOW you feel you can trust him, but evil never shows its face directly. I
am not saying Patrick is evil per se, but I am just, as an online friend,
telling you to be cautious. OK?
One more thing, if Patrick really is so sincere in his intentions towards
you, and doesn't think it's good for you to know about raising demons and
summoning Leviathan and using blood for power, then why does he bring them
up, 'accidentally'?
He should not mention them to you at all if he knows you would get anxious
over them. Just think about it, let it sink in, try to see things the way
they really are, not the way you would like them to be.
V, be careful, and take good care of yourself. And don't do anything you
might regret later.
Hugs,
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Since: Aug 03, 2007 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:21 pm
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Natascha says
> Varizo,
> I have been reading your posts and discussion with T-bone.
> Could you let me know what the titles were of Patrick's books? Liber what?
There was one called Liber Kaos i think, there was another one called
liber somthing and pyschonate, or sypchonaut, somthjing liek that
anyway, i cant remenbrer it exact. One was Blood Magick or somthjing
with that in the titile.
> However, regardless of the titles, trying to summon Leviathan is not a very
> positive thing to do.
I dont realy kno anything about it, he says that he can create
enittys and make other ones appear that already exsist cos of human
thought thta created them.
> Also, everything you write about Patrick points
> towards sexuality. Trust me, he thinks of you in a sexual manner.
But how can you kno that tho? I realy dont understand why so many ppl
are suspisoous about him, hes done nothing but help me.
> You know I am not here to judge, and I wish for you to be happy; with
> Kristy, with Darren, with who-ever. But be careful about trusting Patrick.
>
> I have many premonitions, and I feel things about people, and like it or
> not, it is just wise to be on guard about Patrick. Just be careful, V. It
> won't hurt you to be careful.
I am, im sure that if there was anything wrong, i would sence it, but
hes never given me any reason to be suspisious of him.
> I KNOW you feel you can trust him, but evil never shows its face directly. I
> am not saying Patrick is evil per se, but I am just, as an online friend,
> telling you to be cautious. OK?
Thanx Natascha, i kno that your only being concernd, but i dont kno
wot id of done wiithout Patrick the last few monthes, theyve been
awful for me, hes realy helped me thur all of it.
> One more thing, if Patrick really is so sincere in his intentions towards
> you, and doesn't think it's good for you to know about raising demons and
> summoning Leviathan and using blood for power, then why does he bring them
> up, 'accidentally'?
He hasent done tho, i saw some of his books and looked at them and
read some of the things in them, and i asked him about things like
that , that was in his books, and he tried to explain some of it to
me, and he told me wot he could do and how he can control things like
that , but he wasent trying to get me to be involved with anything
like that he was just telling me how thoughts can create things, and
how the mind, if its used properley can make things happen, he was
using that as a exstreme exsampel of how thougths can create things,
and he was saying it in the sence that if that sort of thing can be
created by thought, then much easier things, like getting to be
freinds w sombody again, is much easier to make happen.
> He should not mention them to you at all if he knows you would get anxious
> over them. Just think about it, let it sink in, try to see things the way
> they really are, not the way you would like them to be.
He only told me about things like that cos i was asking about the
things that were in those books that hes got, that was wot frightend
me and then when he told me about wot he can do it unnerved me, but
not cos of him, just cos of things like that being made to appear, i
donrt even kno wot raising leviathian means, Kirsty use to hav albums
by a band called that, but it s obvusoly nothing to do with them.
Patrick knows about allsorts of things, and i probaly havent been
explaining it properley cos its hard for me to understand. But he
would never do anything to hurt me or frighten me, and he would never
make anything like that appear when i was there, hes reasurred me
loads of times that theres nothing to worry about, he knows wot hes
doing, hes been doing this sort of thing for yrs, he has got powers
and he knows how to control power and energys that are in theuniverse
and exsist all around ,but that most ppl dont even kno about. Like i
didnt , till i got to kno him.
> V, be careful, and take good care of yourself. And don't do anything you
> might regret later.
> Hugs,
> Natascha
Thanx Natascha, your one of the few nice genuinne ppl on the internet,
theres only a few, like you , and Monika , and Dave, [thats Whisky
Dave] and i think that TBone is alrite too, hes just a hit nosey at
times, but he means well, and theres quite a few others too that i
havent talked to for a while , but they are wot makes it worthwhile to
still bother going to NGs, im so glad that theres still this NG to
come to to talk about horror movies too, not that ive botherd to watch
any cos i havent felt like it much with how ive been feeling, but im
going to try and watch that Fragile one, i remerber you told me about
it, and ive seen it in the shops now, so i might ask Dad to get it for
us to watch when i go there again, i realy liked that other one that
you told me about, i cant reemerbt wot it was called now, hte one with
the lighthouse in it, i still havent seen the 2nd Grudge one yet, i
cant consentrate on anything much.
V.
PS I was determinned to get home 2nite while its still dark, but its
daylite again now, i like htis time of yr but at least in the winter
its still dark at this time, [10 past 5 in the morning].Anyway, see
you nxt wk! bye for now. >> Stay informed about: Varizo! |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 2:07 pm
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"Varizo." schreef in bericht
> I dont realy kno anything about it, he says that he can create
> enittys and make other ones appear that already exsist cos of human
> thought thta created them.
well, just think of Leviathan as the devil. So summoning him is a bad idea.
However, just try not to get involved in that type of thing OK? If Patrick
wants to go there he should, but don't get dragged into it.
> But how can you kno that tho? I realy dont understand why so many
> ppl are suspisoous about him, hes done nothing but help me.
It's just a feeling I have V, I can't prove it ofcourse. Just be careful.
> he was saying it in the sence that if that sort of thing can be
> created by thought, then much easier things, like getting to be
> freinds w sombody again, is much easier to make happen.
OK, I get what you're saying. Look, I know Darren means a lot to you, but no
matter what Patrick says, you cannot make someone be with you. It should
always be that person's decision. Darren has to WANT to be with you.
> he has got powers
> and he knows how to control power and energys that are in
> theuniverse and exsist all around ,but that most ppl dont even kno
> about. Like i didnt , till i got to kno him.
That's OK V, as long as those powers are being used for good only; blood
magic and summoning demons such as Leviathan is not good.
> Thanx Natascha, your one of the few nice genuinne ppl on the internet,
> they are wot makes it worthwhile to
> still bother going to NGs
It's those people that make it worthwhile for me too, V :-)
I sincerely hope patrick is worthy of your trust V, I really do.
And I hope that you and Darren will be back together, if that is what you
want. Just make sure you're not dragged into anything you might regret later
OK?
> but im
> going to try and watch that Fragile one
I think you'll like it :-) it's kinda good :-)
> Anyway, see
> you nxt wk! bye for now.
See ya, and take care!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:39 pm
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"Varizo." schreef in bericht
> There was one called Liber Kaos i think, there was another one called
> liber somthing and pyschonate, or sypchonaut, somthjing liek that
> anyway, i cant remenbrer it exact. One was Blood Magick or
> somthjing with that in the titile.
Yes, Liber Kaso and Liber Null and psychonaut are books on chaos magic,
which are good reads, but they do not involve conjuring demons.
Check this out to read a bit about it (it's not scary) ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic
Blood Magick is about how to use blood during magic rituals, and as long as
you have permission to use someone's blood that's OK too ofcourse.
take care,
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:47 pm
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Natascha says
> "Varizo." schreef in bericht
>
> > There was one called Liber Kaos i think, there was another one called
> > liber somthing and pyschonate, or sypchonaut, somthjing liek that
> > anyway, i cant remenbrer it exact. One was Blood Magick or
> > somthjing with that in the titile.
>
> Yes, Liber Kaso and Liber Null and psychonaut are books on chaos magic,
> which are good reads, but they do not involve conjuring demons.
>
> Check this out to read a bit about it (it's not scary) ;-)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic
Its realy conplicated isnt it? I coudlent understand any of that.
Thats wot i mean about some of the books that i looked at that Patrick
has got, it was too compliacted for me to understand, that is why he
said htat it wouldnet help me at all by trying to understand anything
that was in thos bookes, he said that it would just confuse my mind,
hes only got those books fro refferance reasons only anyway.
> Blood Magick is about how to use blood during magic rituals, and as long as
> you have permission to use someone's blood that's OK too ofcourse.
Yuck, it sounds like somthing realy horribal, its not somthing that id
ever want to do. I dont see that it would do anything anyway, Patrick
says that ppl only use tthings like that to help them beleive more,
but you dont need to do anything like that. Hav u ever got invovled
in anything like that?
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Since: Nov 28, 2005 Posts: 99
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:08 am
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:52:08 +0200, Natascha wrote:
> Oh c'mon, what do you guys have against V anyways? LOL
The list is endless. (eg. ignorant, arrogant, ill-educated,
egotistical, naive, a benefit fraud, etc etc)
Perhaps his most annoying trait is that, regardless of the newsgroup, he
only has one topic of conversation - himself.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:53 am
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"Varizo." schreef in bericht
> Natascha says
>> "Varizo." schreef in bericht
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> Youve got me worried now
don't worry too much, just be careful, that's all I'm saying. :-)
> I kno, its just that you kno how when 2 ppl realy like each other, but
> they dont like to realy admit it to the other one
V, seriously, if you want to make things right, just get in touch with him,
and talk things over. Tell him just what you have told me right here.
Pride is OK, but too much pride might just make you lose someone you care
about.
That is wot upsets me too,
> thinking that hes being so insenssitiv to how i feel, he just laughed
> and i thought that hed want to hav it out with me, to find out why i
> was so angry, insted of just acting all amused, and then just walking
> off like that.
I think maybe he acted like that to et back at you for how you acted before.
Be the wiser one and talk to him, V
Take care,
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:47 am
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:08:56 +0100, ReVulse
wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:52:08 +0200, Natascha wrote:
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>> Oh c'mon, what do you guys have against V anyways? LOL
>
>The list is endless. (eg. ignorant, arrogant, ill-educated,
>egotistical, naive, a benefit fraud, etc etc)
>
>Perhaps his most annoying trait is that, regardless of the newsgroup, he
>only has one topic of conversation - himself.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:17 am
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 10:47:14 +0100, Let the spite flow. wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:08:56 +0100, ReVulse
> wrote:
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>>On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:52:08 +0200, Natascha wrote:
>>
>>> Oh c'mon, what do you guys have against V anyways? LOL
>>
>>The list is endless. (eg. ignorant, arrogant, ill-educated,
>>egotistical, naive, a benefit fraud, etc etc)
>>
>>Perhaps his most annoying trait is that, regardless of the newsgroup, he
>>only has one topic of conversation - himself.
>
> At least he isn't FAT.
No, and he's never been shy about giving his opinion on how he finds fat
people disgusting.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:41 pm
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"Varizo." schreef in bericht
But it was some of the struff in those books that
> worried me abit , to do w useing blood to get power , tht sort of
> thing, i dident kno that things like that could work. it just worrys
> me a bit that they can.
don't worry about it. These things only have a tiny chance of working if the
supposed 'victim' believes it might actually work ;-)
he realy does care about me a lot, i kno
> that.
OK, as long as you're sure V
>
> See, things like that scare me a bit, i find that sort of thing realy
> creepy.
well, don't think about it then; you're alive, and you should concern
yourself with living life to the fullest. Don't worry about spirits or stuff
like that. There's nothing out there to be afraid of.
>
> Why do some of those books say that you can use it to get power?
don't believe everything you read V.
Placebo pills help people too (pills without any medical substance in them),
why? because people believe in them. The same with blood magick. The fact
that the books says it is possible, doesn't necessarily mean it actually IS
possible. :-)
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:28 pm
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Natascha says
> don't believe everything you read V.
> Placebo pills help people too (pills without any medical substance in them),
> why? because people believe in them. The same with blood magick. The fact
> that the books says it is possible, doesn't necessarily mean it actually IS
> possible. :-)
But Patrick realy can make things happen tho. The way thqt he managd
to get me to find out where he was staying and then how i decided to
just go round in the middle of the nite to see him, id never of done
nothign like that normaly. I thougth that it was just somthing that id
decided to do, but i woudlent of done normaly, but it just seemed so
right to do it, and it was cos hed done somthing that drew me to him,
even tho i thought that it was just my own decision. It was him
working on mem but it was for good reasons, to make us both happy, its
alrite to use it for things like that. But he coudl use it against
ppl too if he wanted to, he has done somtimes.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:31 pm
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Natascha wrote:
> "Varizo." schreef in bericht
>
[..]
> I do worry about trying to raise leviathan,
You're worried about somebody raising, by spells and incantations and
whatever, a biblical sea monster?
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