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Since: Sep 23, 2005 Posts: 1197
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(Msg. 61) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:46 pm
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"No Man" wrote in message
> Joe Gillis wrote:
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>> I believe (with a little help from IMDb) that the character I'm
>> talking about is "Crooks", played by Leigh Whipper.
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> But we have from Wikipedia: "Candy, the aged, one-handed ranch-hand,
> offers to put in his few hundred dollars with Lennie and George so that
> they can buy the house and land by the end of the month."
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> I don't remember "Crooks."
Crooks is the "broke-back" stable buck. He's an old black man whose back
was broken and who can no longer do the "bucking" work (throwing bales of
crops onto wagons) and is reduced to living in a lean-to attached to the
barn, doing menial odd jobs. His dialog makes VERY clear that he's a black
man, and that is why he lives off by himself, instead of in the bunkhouse
with the other men (including Candy). He is terribly lonely and when Lenny
comes wandering around looking for a conversation, Crooks gives him one.
Lenny spills the beans about their plans and then Candy and George agree to
take Crooks in as a partner. Novel-play-film, all samey-same.
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Since: Sep 23, 2005 Posts: 1197
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(Msg. 62) Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:46 pm
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Since: Apr 19, 2007 Posts: 50
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(Msg. 63) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:08 am
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On Oct 17, 8:41?am, "Stone me" wrote:
> The Kentuckian (1955) seems never to be mentioned, so
> I offer this.
> I like Burt Lancaster, who always seems underrated to me.
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> Anyone remember the quote where he, as a newcomer to film
> suggested to his co-star that she didn't rate him? I cant
> remember the waspish reply.
> He won them all over later.
> Perhaps Bette Davis or Katherine Hepburn?
> I trawled through his filmography, but cant place the film with a
> likely co-star
I don't think he worked with any grande dames in his early years, but
there was "Come Back, Little Sheba" with Shirley Booth, who owned a
big piece of Broadway. But by then he was a license for printing
money, and I doubt he would have been slighted, even by himself.
You may be thinking of Mitchum. There was a story of him being
slighted by Hepburn, one he firmly denied and corrected to her favor--
she merely warned him about being lighted properly. >> Stay informed about: Westerns *you* like but no one else does. |
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Since: Sep 17, 2007 Posts: 63
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(Msg. 64) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:05 pm
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tomcervo wrote:
>> I like Burt Lancaster, who always seems underrated to me.
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>I don't think he worked with any grande dames in his early years,
He played with Ava Gardner, Yvonne de Carlo, Joan Fontaine and
Barbara Stanwick in some of his first films. "The Killers" with Ava
Gardner was his very first film.
Manfred >> Stay informed about: Westerns *you* like but no one else does. |
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Since: Sep 23, 2007 Posts: 106
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(Msg. 65) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:56 pm
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Jim Beaver wrote:
> Well, innovative in the novel.
You mean there's a scene where a little girl wanders onto a western
street, deserted otherwise, until mom hurries up the walk and snatches
her little hand and pulls her to safety, in the novel?
I described once what I saw in a movie. Sam the Lion talking to the boys
in the pickup headed for Mexico. He is trying to think of anything to
hold them there, to relish his own adventures down south. Thinks of
nothing, then let's 'em go, and they never see one another again.
I had not read *Last Picture Show* at the time, but one who did said,
about my description above, that's just the way it was written.
Only ... it wasn't.
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'... my name is Noman; this is what my father and mother and my friends
have always called me.' - Odyssey; Book IX >> Stay informed about: Westerns *you* like but no one else does. |
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Since: Jan 15, 2005 Posts: 927
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(Msg. 66) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:25 pm
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I havent been through the whole thread so I dont know if anyone has
mentioned:
"Three Godfathers" (1936)
One of my favorite westerns, in fact...then again, Im not a fan of the
genre per se. Great acting and unusually thoughtful dialog for a western.
I started watching it on TCM one night intending to see only the first 10
minutes or so just to get a feel for the film. So cool I just had to keep
watching.
steve
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"The accused will now make a bogus statement."
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Since: Sep 23, 2005 Posts: 1197
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(Msg. 67) Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:41 pm
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"No Man" wrote in message
> Jim Beaver wrote:
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>> Well, innovative in the novel.
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> You mean there's a scene where a little girl wanders onto a western
> street, deserted otherwise, until mom hurries up the walk and snatches her
> little hand and pulls her to safety, in the novel?
I was referring to the "Smile" line. >> Stay informed about: Westerns *you* like but no one else does. |
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Since: Feb 08, 2006 Posts: 167
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(Msg. 68) Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:02 am
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In article , jumblejim.DeleteThis@prodigy.spam
says...
>
> "No Man" wrote in message
>
> > Joe Gillis wrote:
> >
> >> I believe (with a little help from IMDb) that the character I'm
> >> talking about is "Crooks", played by Leigh Whipper.
> >
> > But we have from Wikipedia: "Candy, the aged, one-handed ranch-hand,
> > offers to put in his few hundred dollars with Lennie and George so that
> > they can buy the house and land by the end of the month."
> >
> > I don't remember "Crooks."
>
> Crooks is the "broke-back" stable buck. He's an old black man whose back
> was broken and who can no longer do the "bucking" work (throwing bales of
> crops onto wagons) and is reduced to living in a lean-to attached to the
> barn, doing menial odd jobs. His dialog makes VERY clear that he's a black
> man,
Not just the dialogue. I read 'Of Mice And Men' at school in the early 70s
and I'm pretty sure that at least one other character refers to Crooks as
that 'God-be-damned nigger'. I also seem to remember that, although crippled,
he wasn't an old man, but I could be wrong about that. I do remember he was
pretty good at tossing horseshoes!
--
Halmyre
What in Swansea are going on here?! >> Stay informed about: Westerns *you* like but no one else does. |
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