Chaplin's Wikipedia entry

Matt Barry wrote:
> I've heard this story as well, from another source. It doesn't seem unlikely
> at all that as a fellow comedian he might have had a collection of Hill's
> work on tape.

The Betamax video recorder came out around 1976; Chaplin died in
1977. How likely is it that CC had a videocasette recorder and a
collection of tapes?

>
> This brings up a question I've been wondering about myself lately-who/what
> were some of Chaplin's favorite entertainers/films in his later years?
> Surely he must have kept involved in what was going on in the film world.
> Did he ever give any opinions on then-current cinema? I wonder if he saw any
> of the new American films from Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, etc.? I forget
> where I heard this, but supposedly one film that Chaplin admired very much
> was the original ROCKY (1976).

It's in Robinson's book, I believe. The original ROCKY: the only good
film Sylvester Stallone ever made.
>
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> <mlanoue.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >I wonder if the 80+ year-old Chaplin was a VHS or Betamax kind of guy?
> > Or was he stringing up old reel-to-reel tapes on an Ampex machine when
> > he was recording all these Benny Hill episodes, which must have been a
> > pretty big hit in Switzerland.
> >
> >
> > Robert Moulton wrote:
> >> I think it's time to wreck the Wikipedia entry on Chaplin by starting
> >> all sorts of fights on it about Chaplin's politics, 'cause that's
> >> likely where most people are going to be going online to get Chaplin
> >> info.
> >>
> >> Or items like the following could be cleaned up (this one doesn't sound
> >> likely to me for many reasons):
> >>
> >> In his later years Chaplin was a fan of Benny Hill (a big Chaplin fan
> >> himself), a compliment that touched Benny deeply when he visited
> >> Chaplin's home on invitation from Chaplin's family in 1991 and
> >> discovered that Charlie had a vast collection of Benny Hill videos
> >
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I've heard this story as well, from another source. It doesn't seem unlikely
at all that as a fellow comedian he might have had a collection of Hill's
work on tape.

This brings up a question I've been wondering about myself lately-who/what
were some of Chaplin's favorite entertainers/films in his later years?
Surely he must have kept involved in what was going on in the film world.
Did he ever give any opinions on then-current cinema? I wonder if he saw any
of the new American films from Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, etc.? I forget
where I heard this, but supposedly one film that Chaplin admired very much
was the original ROCKY (1976).

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>I wonder if the 80+ year-old Chaplin was a VHS or Betamax kind of guy?
> Or was he stringing up old reel-to-reel tapes on an Ampex machine when
> he was recording all these Benny Hill episodes, which must have been a
> pretty big hit in Switzerland.
>
>
> Robert Moulton wrote:
>> I think it's time to wreck the Wikipedia entry on Chaplin by starting
>> all sorts of fights on it about Chaplin's politics, 'cause that's
>> likely where most people are going to be going online to get Chaplin
>> info.
>>
>> Or items like the following could be cleaned up (this one doesn't sound
>> likely to me for many reasons):
>>
>> In his later years Chaplin was a fan of Benny Hill (a big Chaplin fan
>> himself), a compliment that touched Benny deeply when he visited
>> Chaplin's home on invitation from Chaplin's family in 1991 and
>> discovered that Charlie had a vast collection of Benny Hill videos
>
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I beleive the older reel to reel recorders were commercially available
in the early seventies, so it is technically possible that somehow he
got a collection of Benny Hill videos, but he would have had to have
somebody there to maintain the collection. I can't imagine a guy his
age or in his condition would have had the ability to run the thing
himself.


Matt Barry wrote:
> "Richard Carnahan" <rfcsac627n DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152851991.371850.255860@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Matt Barry wrote:
> >> I've heard this story as well, from another source. It doesn't seem
> >> unlikely
> >> at all that as a fellow comedian he might have had a collection of Hill's
> >> work on tape.
> >
> > The Betamax video recorder came out around 1976; Chaplin died in
> > 1977. How likely is it that CC had a videocasette recorder and a
> > collection of tapes?
> >
>
> I'm not familiar with the exact dates of the technology but weren't the Hill
> programs shot on tape? Is there any evidence Chaplin may have had one of the
> older reel-to-reel tape machines (again, I'm not familiar with this
> technology so please correct me if I'm completely wrong).
>
> >>
> >> This brings up a question I've been wondering about myself
> >> lately-who/what
> >> were some of Chaplin's favorite entertainers/films in his later years?
> >> Surely he must have kept involved in what was going on in the film world.
> >> Did he ever give any opinions on then-current cinema? I wonder if he saw
> >> any
> >> of the new American films from Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, etc.? I
> >> forget
> >> where I heard this, but supposedly one film that Chaplin admired very
> >> much
> >> was the original ROCKY (1976).
> >
> > It's in Robinson's book, I believe. The original ROCKY: the only good
> > film Sylvester Stallone ever made.
> >>
>
> Interesting. I wonder if he followed the work of other film comedians in his
> later years? If there is any truth to the Benny Hill story, it would suggest
> he did.
>
> --
> Matt Barry
> Visit my pages at:
> http://mbarry84.tripod.com
> http://filmreel.blogspot.com
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Matt Barry wrote:
> "Richard Carnahan" <rfcsac627n.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1152851991.371850.255860@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Matt Barry wrote:
> >> I've heard this story as well, from another source. It doesn't seem
> >> unlikely
> >> at all that as a fellow comedian he might have had a collection of Hill's
> >> work on tape.
> >
> > The Betamax video recorder came out around 1976; Chaplin died in
> > 1977. How likely is it that CC had a videocasette recorder and a
> > collection of tapes?
> >
>
> I'm not familiar with the exact dates of the technology but weren't the Hill
> programs shot on tape? Is there any evidence Chaplin may have had one of the
> older reel-to-reel tape machines (again, I'm not familiar with this
> technology so please correct me if I'm completely wrong).
>

The fact that Benny Hill was recorded on videotape wouldn't really
offer a clue as to whether CC had copies of his shows. And it's
unlikely that the Hill shows were commercially available on tape as
early as 1977, although someone could have taped them off TV for
Chaplin.

Somehow I can't see Chaplin with a reel to reel video recorder
> >>
> >> This brings up a question I've been wondering about myself
> >> lately-who/what
> >> were some of Chaplin's favorite entertainers/films in his later years?
> >> Surely he must have kept involved in what was going on in the film world.
> >> Did he ever give any opinions on then-current cinema? I wonder if he saw
> >> any
> >> of the new American films from Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, etc.? I
> >> forget
> >> where I heard this, but supposedly one film that Chaplin admired very
> >> much
> >> was the original ROCKY (1976).
> >
> > It's in Robinson's book, I believe. The original ROCKY: the only good
> > film Sylvester Stallone ever made.
> >>
>
> Interesting. I wonder if he followed the work of other film comedians in his
> later years? If there is any truth to the Benny Hill story, it would suggest
> he did.
>

I remember Chaplin raving about Peter Sellers and DR. STRANGELOVE in
a mid-1960's interview--although this is just on a 40-year old memory
on my part. I've never been able to locate the article again.
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Betamax home video showed up in 75, but as wealthy as Chaplin was, he
may have had broadcast U-Matic 3/4 machines. They had been around since
73-74.
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Richard Carnahan wrote:
> Matt Barry wrote:
> > I've heard this story as well, from another source. It doesn't seem unlikely
> > at all that as a fellow comedian he might have had a collection of Hill's
> > work on tape.
>
> The Betamax video recorder came out around 1976; Chaplin died in
> 1977. How likely is it that CC had a videocasette recorder and a
> collection of tapes?
>
> >
> > This brings up a question I've been wondering about myself lately-who/what
> > were some of Chaplin's favorite entertainers/films in his later years?
> > Surely he must have kept involved in what was going on in the film world.
> > Did he ever give any opinions on then-current cinema? I wonder if he saw any
> > of the new American films from Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, etc.? I forget
> > where I heard this, but supposedly one film that Chaplin admired very much
> > was the original ROCKY (1976).
>
> It's in Robinson's book, I believe. The

Where's Jim N.? I believe he's said that Chapiin admired Jerry Lewis
and that they
exchanged prints of one of their films.

Chaplin was typically generous in praising other comedians, though
there were some
that he never commented on. He seems to have recognized talent when he
saw it,
which is obvious in the casting of his own films. It's not improbable
to me that he saw
something interesting in the work of Benny Hill.

Connie K.



> >
> > --
> > Matt Barry
> > Visit my pages at:
> > http://mbarry84.tripod.com
> > http://filmreel.blogspot.com
> > <mlanoue DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1152800637.558636.285220@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >I wonder if the 80+ year-old Chaplin was a VHS or Betamax kind of guy?
> > > Or was he stringing up old reel-to-reel tapes on an Ampex machine when
> > > he was recording all these Benny Hill episodes, which must have been a
> > > pretty big hit in Switzerland.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Moulton wrote:
> > >> I think it's time to wreck the Wikipedia entry on Chaplin by starting
> > >> all sorts of fights on it about Chaplin's politics, 'cause that's
> > >> likely where most people are going to be going online to get Chaplin
> > >> info.
> > >>
> > >> Or items like the following could be cleaned up (this one doesn't sound
> > >> likely to me for many reasons):
> > >>
> > >> In his later years Chaplin was a fan of Benny Hill (a big Chaplin fan
> > >> himself), a compliment that touched Benny deeply when he visited
> > >> Chaplin's home on invitation from Chaplin's family in 1991 and
> > >> discovered that Charlie had a vast collection of Benny Hill videos
> > >
 >> Stay informed about: Chaplin's Wikipedia entry 

"Richard Carnahan" <rfcsac627n.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Matt Barry wrote:
>> I've heard this story as well, from another source. It doesn't seem
>> unlikely
>> at all that as a fellow comedian he might have had a collection of Hill's
>> work on tape.
>
> The Betamax video recorder came out around 1976; Chaplin died in
> 1977. How likely is it that CC had a videocasette recorder and a
> collection of tapes?
>

I'm not familiar with the exact dates of the technology but weren't the Hill
programs shot on tape? Is there any evidence Chaplin may have had one of the
older reel-to-reel tape machines (again, I'm not familiar with this
technology so please correct me if I'm completely wrong).

>>
>> This brings up a question I've been wondering about myself
>> lately-who/what
>> were some of Chaplin's favorite entertainers/films in his later years?
>> Surely he must have kept involved in what was going on in the film world.
>> Did he ever give any opinions on then-current cinema? I wonder if he saw
>> any
>> of the new American films from Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, etc.? I
>> forget
>> where I heard this, but supposedly one film that Chaplin admired very
>> much
>> was the original ROCKY (1976).
>
> It's in Robinson's book, I believe. The original ROCKY: the only good
> film Sylvester Stallone ever made.
>>

Interesting. I wonder if he followed the work of other film comedians in his
later years? If there is any truth to the Benny Hill story, it would suggest
he did.

--
Matt Barry
Visit my pages at:
http://mbarry84.tripod.com
http://filmreel.blogspot.com
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I don't think Chaplin having video tapes of Benny Hill is unlikely
because of Benny Hill himself. I was thinking more along the lines of
Chaplin's physical decline and the timing of video becoming
commercially popular.

I was thinking more along the lines of any sentance starting "Chaplin
had a vast collection of <performer X> videos" as unlikely.

constance.kuriyama DeleteThis @ttu.edu wrote:
> Richard Carnahan wrote:
> > Matt Barry wrote:
> > > I've heard this story as well, from another source. It doesn't seem unlikely
> > > at all that as a fellow comedian he might have had a collection of Hill's
> > > work on tape.
> >
> > The Betamax video recorder came out around 1976; Chaplin died in
> > 1977. How likely is it that CC had a videocasette recorder and a
> > collection of tapes?
> >
> > >
> > > This brings up a question I've been wondering about myself lately-who/what
> > > were some of Chaplin's favorite entertainers/films in his later years?
> > > Surely he must have kept involved in what was going on in the film world.
> > > Did he ever give any opinions on then-current cinema? I wonder if he saw any
> > > of the new American films from Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, etc.? I forget
> > > where I heard this, but supposedly one film that Chaplin admired very much
> > > was the original ROCKY (1976).
> >
> > It's in Robinson's book, I believe. The
>
> Where's Jim N.? I believe he's said that Chapiin admired Jerry Lewis
> and that they
> exchanged prints of one of their films.
>
> Chaplin was typically generous in praising other comedians, though
> there were some
> that he never commented on. He seems to have recognized talent when he
> saw it,
> which is obvious in the casting of his own films. It's not improbable
> to me that he saw
> something interesting in the work of Benny Hill.
>
> Connie K.
>
>
>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matt Barry
> > > Visit my pages at:
> > > http://mbarry84.tripod.com
> > > http://filmreel.blogspot.com
> > > <mlanoue DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1152800637.558636.285220@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > >I wonder if the 80+ year-old Chaplin was a VHS or Betamax kind of guy?
> > > > Or was he stringing up old reel-to-reel tapes on an Ampex machine when
> > > > he was recording all these Benny Hill episodes, which must have been a
> > > > pretty big hit in Switzerland.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert Moulton wrote:
> > > >> I think it's time to wreck the Wikipedia entry on Chaplin by starting
> > > >> all sorts of fights on it about Chaplin's politics, 'cause that's
> > > >> likely where most people are going to be going online to get Chaplin
> > > >> info.
> > > >>
> > > >> Or items like the following could be cleaned up (this one doesn't sound
> > > >> likely to me for many reasons):
> > > >>
> > > >> In his later years Chaplin was a fan of Benny Hill (a big Chaplin fan
> > > >> himself), a compliment that touched Benny deeply when he visited
> > > >> Chaplin's home on invitation from Chaplin's family in 1991 and
> > > >> discovered that Charlie had a vast collection of Benny Hill videos
> > > >
 >> Stay informed about: Chaplin's Wikipedia entry 

Robert Moulton wrote:
> I think it's time to wreck the Wikipedia entry on Chaplin by starting
> all sorts of fights on it about Chaplin's politics, 'cause that's
> likely where most people are going to be going online to get Chaplin
> info.
>
> Or items like the following could be cleaned up (this one doesn't sound
> likely to me for many reasons):
>
> In his later years Chaplin was a fan of Benny Hill (a big Chaplin fan
> himself), a compliment that touched Benny deeply when he visited
> Chaplin's home on invitation from Chaplin's family in 1991 and
> discovered that Charlie had a vast collection of Benny Hill videos
>
I only know that he admired Lucille Ball.

:)
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constance.kuriyama.RemoveThis@ttu.edu 7/14/06 11:03 AM

>
> Where's Jim N.?

he's here

> I believe he's said that Chapiin admired Jerry Lewis
> and that they
> exchanged prints of one of their films.

Chaplin sent Modern Times in exchange for a print of The Bellboy.

JN
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Matt Barry wrote:

> There's footage I've seen (I forget where now) of Chaplin(it seems like it
> was during an interview session) listening to a recording on a reel-to-reel
> audio tape player set up in his home.

That's in THE GENTLEMAN TRAMP.
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On 15 Jul 2006 07:50:22 -0700, "Richard Carnahan" <rfcsac627n DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:

>
>Matt Barry wrote:
>
>> There's footage I've seen (I forget where now) of Chaplin(it seems like it
>> was during an interview session) listening to a recording on a reel-to-reel
>> audio tape player set up in his home.
>
> That's in THE GENTLEMAN TRAMP.

And he was listening to part of the score of "Pay Day" (the music hall song
entiltled "A Little Bit Faint", I think .)
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I know he had very high praise for both Lou Costello and Mexican comedian
Cantinflas. He also admired and even envied Groucho's skill as a verbal
comedian (which, according to Groucho, always baffled him as to how Chaplin
could possibly envy another comedian, since Groucho stated on many occasions
that Chaplin was the greatest).

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>
> Richard Carnahan wrote:
>> Matt Barry wrote:
>> > I've heard this story as well, from another source. It doesn't seem
>> > unlikely
>> > at all that as a fellow comedian he might have had a collection of
>> > Hill's
>> > work on tape.
>>
>> The Betamax video recorder came out around 1976; Chaplin died in
>> 1977. How likely is it that CC had a videocasette recorder and a
>> collection of tapes?
>>
>> >
>> > This brings up a question I've been wondering about myself
>> > lately-who/what
>> > were some of Chaplin's favorite entertainers/films in his later years?
>> > Surely he must have kept involved in what was going on in the film
>> > world.
>> > Did he ever give any opinions on then-current cinema? I wonder if he
>> > saw any
>> > of the new American films from Coppola, Scorsese, Spielberg, etc.? I
>> > forget
>> > where I heard this, but supposedly one film that Chaplin admired very
>> > much
>> > was the original ROCKY (1976).
>>
>> It's in Robinson's book, I believe. The
>
> Where's Jim N.? I believe he's said that Chapiin admired Jerry Lewis
> and that they
> exchanged prints of one of their films.
>
> Chaplin was typically generous in praising other comedians, though
> there were some
> that he never commented on. He seems to have recognized talent when he
> saw it,
> which is obvious in the casting of his own films. It's not improbable
> to me that he saw
> something interesting in the work of Benny Hill.
>
> Connie K.
>
>
>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt Barry
>> > Visit my pages at:
>> > http://mbarry84.tripod.com
>> > http://filmreel.blogspot.com
>> > <mlanoue.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1152800637.558636.285220@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > >I wonder if the 80+ year-old Chaplin was a VHS or Betamax kind of guy?
>> > > Or was he stringing up old reel-to-reel tapes on an Ampex machine
>> > > when
>> > > he was recording all these Benny Hill episodes, which must have been
>> > > a
>> > > pretty big hit in Switzerland.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Robert Moulton wrote:
>> > >> I think it's time to wreck the Wikipedia entry on Chaplin by
>> > >> starting
>> > >> all sorts of fights on it about Chaplin's politics, 'cause that's
>> > >> likely where most people are going to be going online to get Chaplin
>> > >> info.
>> > >>
>> > >> Or items like the following could be cleaned up (this one doesn't
>> > >> sound
>> > >> likely to me for many reasons):
>> > >>
>> > >> In his later years Chaplin was a fan of Benny Hill (a big Chaplin
>> > >> fan
>> > >> himself), a compliment that touched Benny deeply when he visited
>> > >> Chaplin's home on invitation from Chaplin's family in 1991 and
>> > >> discovered that Charlie had a vast collection of Benny Hill videos
>> > >
>
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