Willy Wonka - This time for real!

On 24 Aug 2003 23:44:30 -0700, moonling_7odd.DeleteThis@yahoo.com (Moonling
Ryanica) wrote:

>great, depp as wonka would be perfect, agreed!
>
>now we can only hope the jennifer and brad involvment stuff is rumor
>too. please let it be so. but if its not, why ?!?!?!
>
>oh yea, american celebrities can own anything they want, i often
>forget...
>
>todd of oregon

Sure, the idea is intriguing, but I don't like the idea of Burton
directing another Wonka movie. He's just going to get into the same
problems with the remake (or re-imagining) of Planet of the Apes, and
I hate to see him get stuck in a rut of nothing but remakes and so on.
I was excited to hear about Big Fish because it's the first project in
a long time that wasn't based on an older movie, a book that had been
made into a dozen other movies, or whatever. It sounded like Burton
finally got his hands on some original material (granted, he is making
a movie based on a book, but it's not a book that has been put to film
before, so it's still refreshing and new).

Now, had the rumors that Marilyn Manson was going to play Willy Wonka
turned out to be true...

Heheheh

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Burton Samograd <kruhft.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<873cfo1d2t.fsf.DeleteThis@kruhft.vc.shawcable.net>...
> "Linda Goddard" <matt.goddard4.DeleteThis@btopenworld.com> writes:
> > Gener Wilder certainly delivered a great performance in the original, but
> > don't forget that this version, so I have read by many sources, is not a
> > re-make of the original but is a lot closer to the book, which allegedly the
> > Wilder version is not and that the Dahl Estate actually hated the Wiler
> > version. So I think this one will be different enough for it to be a huge
> > success.
>
> I don't understand where this logic comes from. I recently re-read
> the book after seeing the movie and, other than the ending, found it
> startling similar. I don't understand how that the Dahl Estate could
> not like the movie, since to me it is the same story, same characters,
> same locations, same songs...

The same songs? I wish I wasn't living at school, so that I had my
copy of _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_ on hand. I remember that
Dahl definitely has the Oompa Loompas recite rhymes throughout the
book, but if the words are even the same as those silly songs in the
movie, I can't remember. And even if they are, they're not "the same
songs", as I don't believe Dahl had anything to do with writing the
music.

I read Dahl's book as a child (this was in the early '90's) before
seeing the movie. When I saw it, I hated it. I have never found
Wilder to be anything remotely like Willy Wonka. Everyone hung up
about him being "perfect" as the character, and perceiving the '70's
film as "the original version" and Burton's as a "remake" of it, is
just backwards.

The '70's film follows the book's story closely, yes, but the visual
style doesn't evoke Roald Dahl at all. Everything inside the
chocolate factory looks like a '70's live action children's television
production. The Oompa Loompas are wretched. Dahl had many of his
books adorned with the sketchy drawings of Quentin Blake, because he
felt they suited his work perfectly. Having Burton direct it is
certainly a step in the right direction toward Dahl's flavor - Blake's
and Burton's style are in the same vein. Blake's drawings are the
same kind of thing as what you see in _The Melancholy Death of Oyster
Boy_.

Hell, I have hope that Burton will do Dahl _justice_ and make up for
that hideous movie.

Ryan
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