Zaxcom ZFR Recorder

On Mar 24, 3:35 am, "Oleg Kaizerman" wrote:
> I don't see any reason the zaxcom could not be used as a prime recorder as
> well with mixer in front , and as I know every one have mixer or 2 :-)
> the only thing I like to see on that one is remote control of some sort and
> adaptor to work with different cards as the micro sd is f.. small
>
> --
> Oleg Kaizerman(gebe) Hollyland
>
> wrote in message
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>
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> > On Mar 23, 11:05 pm, "Audiocrew" wrote:
> >> Hi all,
>
> >> Just checking out Coffey Sound's webpage and revisiting the Zaxcom ZFR
> >> recorder info. So am I thinking correctly...the ZFR100 at $995 plus
> >> the STA100 Stereo Adaptor at $295 will give me a small 2 Track non-
> >> linear recorder complete with full timecode in/out capabilities for
> >> $1,300?
>
> >> Isn't the SD 702T around $2,500. Can you compare the two?
>
> >> Any thoughts? Is the ZFR100 actually available now and has anyone
> >> heard it? Thanks for your feedback.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
>
> > The Sound Devices has 2 great mic pre's. It can be used as a main
> > recorder. The Zaxcomm is a backup or transcription recorder.
> > best,
> > Ian



I've thought about using it as a TC capable BU recorder on video
shoots. The 702(T) would be a much better primary recorder--easier to
use, more commonly used connectors, can record to an external drive or
DVDRAM, can support a keyboard for take naming, has TC and clock i/o,
etc etc. Sound wise the Zax should be fine--a step up from something
like a MicroTrack but not much bigger, and it has its display on the
top so it wold be easier to use in a bag rig. Now if it only had a
little wired remote....

Philip Perkins
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Sound wise the Zax should be fine--a step up from something
> like a MicroTrack but not much bigger, and it has its display on the
> top so it wold be easier to use in a bag rig.

'on the top' in an 'on the side' type of way?

dan.
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On 24 Mar, 18:32, "Oleg Kaizerman" wrote:
> what exactly wrong to get unit that draws much less and weight much much
> less
> has tc in out and records exactly the same for film business -and we are
> in film business -(documentary or whatever)
> After 3 16 hours days this week with 10 kg bag( without 744) directly to
> dvx 100 my back start much appreciate small stuff
> and Philip I will glad to get picture you and a keyboard on documentary
> gig - you know the ruff style not sitting with the mic on the c stand :-)
> by the way ,we deliver cf here when they pay us for double system - no need
> to duplicate :-)
>
> --
> Oleg Kaizerman(gebe) Hollyland
>
> > I've thought about using it as a TC capable BU recorder on video
> > shoots. The 702(T) would be a much better primary recorder--easier to
> > use, more commonly used connectors, can record to an external drive or
> > DVDRAM, can support a keyboard for take naming, has TC and clock i/o,
> > etc etc. Sound wise the Zax should be fine--a step up from something
> > like a MicroTrack but not much bigger, and it has its display on the
> > top so it wold be easier to use in a bag rig. Now if it only had a
> > little wired remote....
>
> > Philip Perkins

i'm with oleg, small is better and light is best. whatever the deal
you might or might not get on your kit, whatever redundancy you feel
the need for or are asked to provide, most of us have and will only
ever have 1 spine and as far as i know they do transplants of those.
mess that up and you don't have redundancy, you become redundant.

i'd like to hear users reports of the zfr100. on paper it looks a good
bang for the $/€/�ŸŒ„‰ÂÊ�ËÈØ�(geez, can't find the gbp symbol on the
mac i bought in SF, still the phrase is an americanism so...) and size
wise it's smaller than a microtrack and for about the same weight it
should be a lot more robust. if nagra had put a card slot and tc in
the ares m there would have been some competition, but alas.
bring on the mixers with built in recorders!

dan.
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I don't see any reason the zaxcom could not be used as a prime recorder as
well with mixer in front , and as I know every one have mixer or 2 :-)
the only thing I like to see on that one is remote control of some sort and
adaptor to work with different cards as the micro sd is f.. small

--
Oleg Kaizerman(gebe) Hollyland

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> On Mar 23, 11:05 pm, "Audiocrew" wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just checking out Coffey Sound's webpage and revisiting the Zaxcom ZFR
>> recorder info. So am I thinking correctly...the ZFR100 at $995 plus
>> the STA100 Stereo Adaptor at $295 will give me a small 2 Track non-
>> linear recorder complete with full timecode in/out capabilities for
>> $1,300?
>>
>> Isn't the SD 702T around $2,500. Can you compare the two?
>>
>> Any thoughts? Is the ZFR100 actually available now and has anyone
>> heard it? Thanks for your feedback.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>
> The Sound Devices has 2 great mic pre's. It can be used as a main
> recorder. The Zaxcomm is a backup or transcription recorder.
> best,
> Ian
>
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> if nagra had put a card slot and tc in
> the ares m there would have been some competition, but alas.
> bring on the mixers with built in recorders!
>
> dan.

I thought the same when I had the Nagra BB+ in my hands at AES
Barcelona.
Anyhow a 302 linked to a ZFR could be the thing as of today...
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> Anyhow a 302 linked to a ZFR could be the thing as of today...

but not shure about the orientation of the extra connectors provided
by the stereo adaptor...
It looks like connectors are on the back side of the block (I'm
looking at the picture of the adaptor on the stereo wireless section).
If this is true it does not seem very bag-friendly to me, I'd prefer
to have the length of the connectors portrude at the side, not to the
back... =:s
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This is one of those questions where the answer is what works best for
what you need it for. That being said, because of the very rich
feature set of the 702T, it's versatility and it's perfect mating to
my SD mixers, my 702T could never be replaced by the ZFR100 as my
PRIMARY recorder. However, I could see how it could compete well as a
backup or secondary recorder. I currently use the Edirol R09 for
backup, which has it's good and bad points but at $400 is, for me, a
decent value in the current market (and my current income and needs).
What I would love to see is a relatively affordable SD or Zaxcom-
quality micro 4-track or a 2-track with a VERY good pair of built-in
mics. I'm certain Sound Devices is capable of executing such a Nagra
SN-like jewel and I enjoy just visualizing it, floating in the air
with animated sunbursts around it.

A.



On Mar 23, 11:05 pm, "Audiocrew" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just checking out Coffey Sound's webpage and revisiting the Zaxcom ZFR
> recorder info. So am I thinking correctly...the ZFR100 at $995 plus
> the STA100 Stereo Adaptor at $295 will give me a small 2 Track non-
> linear recorder complete with full timecode in/out capabilities for
> $1,300?
>
> Isn't the SD 702T around $2,500. Can you compare the two?
>
> Any thoughts? Is the ZFR100 actually available now and has anyone
> heard it? Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
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On 24 Mar, 19:32, "Oleg Kaizerman" wrote:
> what exactly wrong to get unit that draws much less and weight much much
> less
> has tc in out and records exactly the same for film business -and we are
> in film business -(documentary or whatever)
> After 3 16 hours days this week with 10 kg bag( without 744) directly to
> dvx 100 my back start much appreciate small stuff
> and Philip I will glad to get picture you and a keyboard on documentary
> gig - you know the ruff style not sitting with the mic on the c stand :-)
> by the way ,we deliver cf here when they pay us for double system - no need
> to duplicate :-)
>
> --
> Oleg Kaizerman(gebe) Hollyland
>
> > I've thought about using it as a TC capable BU recorder on video
> > shoots. The 702(T) would be a much better primary recorder--easier to
> > use, more commonly used connectors, can record to an external drive or
> > DVDRAM, can support a keyboard for take naming, has TC and clock i/o,
> > etc etc. Sound wise the Zax should be fine--a step up from something
> > like a MicroTrack but not much bigger, and it has its display on the
> > top so it wold be easier to use in a bag rig. Now if it only had a
> > little wired remote....
>
> > Philip Perkins

i'm with oleg, small is better and light is best. whatever the deal
you might or might not get on your kit, whatever redundancy you feel
the need for or are asked to provide, most of us have and will only
ever have 1 spine and as far as i know they DON'T do transplants of
those.
mess that up and you don't have redundancy, you become redundant.

i'd like to hear users reports of the zfr100. on paper it looks a good
bang for the $/€/�ŸŒ„‰ÂÊ�ËÈØ�(geez, can't find the gbp symbol on the
mac i bought in SF, still the phrase is an americanism so...) and size
wise it's smaller than a microtrack and for about the same weight it
should be a lot more robust. if nagra had put a card slot and tc in
the ares m there would have been some competition, but alas.
bring on the mixers with built in recorders!

dan.
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what exactly wrong to get unit that draws much less and weight much much
less
has tc in out and records exactly the same for film business -and we are
in film business -(documentary or whatever)
After 3 16 hours days this week with 10 kg bag( without 744) directly to
dvx 100 my back start much appreciate small stuff
and Philip I will glad to get picture you and a keyboard on documentary
gig - you know the ruff style not sitting with the mic on the c stand :-)
by the way ,we deliver cf here when they pay us for double system - no need
to duplicate :-)

--
Oleg Kaizerman(gebe) Hollyland

> I've thought about using it as a TC capable BU recorder on video
> shoots. The 702(T) would be a much better primary recorder--easier to
> use, more commonly used connectors, can record to an external drive or
> DVDRAM, can support a keyboard for take naming, has TC and clock i/o,
> etc etc. Sound wise the Zax should be fine--a step up from something
> like a MicroTrack but not much bigger, and it has its display on the
> top so it wold be easier to use in a bag rig. Now if it only had a
> little wired remote....
>
> Philip Perkins
>
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On Mar 24, 4:35 am, "Oleg Kaizerman" wrote:
> I don't see any reason the zaxcom could not be used as a prime recorder as
> well with mixer in front , and as I know every one have mixer or 2 :-)
> the only thing I like to see on that one is remote control of some sort and
> adaptor to work with different cards as the micro sd is f.. small
>
> --
> Oleg Kaizerman(gebe) Hollyland
>
> wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 23, 11:05 pm, "Audiocrew" wrote:
> >> Hi all,
>
> >> Just checking out Coffey Sound's webpage and revisiting the Zaxcom ZFR
> >> recorder info. So am I thinking correctly...the ZFR100 at $995 plus
> >> the STA100 Stereo Adaptor at $295 will give me a small 2 Track non-
> >> linear recorder complete with full timecode in/out capabilities for
> >> $1,300?
>
> >> Isn't the SD 702T around $2,500. Can you compare the two?
>
> >> Any thoughts? Is the ZFR100 actually available now and has anyone
> >> heard it? Thanks for your feedback.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
>
> > The Sound Devices has 2 great mic pre's. It can be used as a main
> > recorder. The Zaxcomm is a backup or transcription recorder.
> > best,
> > Ian- Hide quoted text -
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No one said it could not be a good recorder with a mixer. But the ?
did not ask that. I personally thought about getting one of these with
my old 702t to geta a 3 and 4th channel, but instead went with the
744t. If i needed a 5th and six channel I would most likely get get a
zax v. a new 702t or 744t.
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No Mr. Oleg, I don't usually have a keyboard attached to my 702T for
docs, but I, like you I suspect, do lots of different kinds of work
and when I'm on a cart doing a commercial or etc in the US I do have
the keyboard because take naming is kind of expected by some clients
now. The SD recorder is much more versitile a machine than the ZFR.
The ZFR is much smaller. If I had the money. I'd have both.
I don't so I have the recoder that will do all the sorts of jobs I
work on--which is the 702T. As for delivering CF cards--you are lucky
in that way: I don't see that happening anytime soon around here, we
are still trying to get everone to accept non-linear off disks or
HDs. I still
use an iRiver H120 as a non-TC backup all the time on docs, and it is
much cheaper, smaller, and has a remote to you don't have to even be
able to see the recorder. And Oleg--my back hurts too!

Philip Perkins

On Mar 24, 10:32 am, "Oleg Kaizerman" wrote:
> what exactly wrong to get unit that draws much less and weight much much
> less
> has tc in out and records exactly the same for film business -and we are
> in film business -(documentary or whatever)
> After 3 16 hours days this week with 10 kg bag( without 744) directly to
> dvx 100 my back start much appreciate small stuff
> and Philip I will glad to get picture you and a keyboard on documentary
> gig - you know the ruff style not sitting with the mic on the c stand :-)
> by the way ,we deliver cf here when they pay us for double system - no need
> to duplicate :-)
>
> --
> Oleg Kaizerman(gebe) Hollyland
>
> > I've thought about using it as a TC capable BU recorder on video
> > shoots. The 702(T) would be a much better primary recorder--easier to
> > use, more commonly used connectors, can record to an external drive or
> > DVDRAM, can support a keyboard for take naming, has TC and clock i/o,
> > etc etc. Sound wise the Zax should be fine--a step up from something
> > like a MicroTrack but not much bigger, and it has its display on the
> > top so it wold be easier to use in a bag rig. Now if it only had a
> > little wired remote....
>
> > Philip Perkins
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I also backup all my stuff on the H120. I name the file when I dump
it in the computer - usually, the name of the person interviewed.
(The H120 has allowed me to e-mailed ambiences to the audio post house
on small projects I cared about)When I have a bunch of projects, I
burn them to DVD's. It'll be fairly easy for me to find something a
few months or years from now. I'm not paid to do it, but the peace of
mind it brings me more than makes up for it.

André

> Nah, you're wrong about the non TC backup. We can and do search large
> amounts of material from it for bits of audio all the time. You keep
> track of what's in what file #, like on a report. Once the file is
> loaded into any sort of editor it's easy to find what you are looking
> for. About doing backup and being paid--well, we've argued about that
> before, and you are still not doing it and I still am and we're both
> still working.
>
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