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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:21 pm
Post subject: actor who totally defined a historical character/ characters still awaiting definitive treatment
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complete definitions:
heston-moses. others have played moses but pale in comparison.
scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
hopkins-nixon.
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still awaiting DA man:
all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
all alexander the greats have been hardly great.
founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:20 pm
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sclemazeltov wrote:
> scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
Hopefully someone who sounds like the real Patton.
Have you ever heard his voice on a newsreel?
> founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding
> father role.
Although it wasn't a movie, excellent work was done
in The Adams Chronicles by Albert Stratton as Jefferson
and Jeremiah Sullivan as Alexander Hamilton, with
George Grizzard at John Adams coming in third but
still execellent - oh, and Robert Symonds as Benjamin
Franklin. All of these actors brought these hard-to-play
characters to life. But again, it wasn't a reel movie.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:44 pm
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How about Peter O'Toole as the definitive Lawrence of Arabia?
"shlemazeltov" <gonif_mamzer DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> complete definitions:
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> heston-moses. others have played moses but pale in comparison.
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> scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
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> hopkins-nixon.
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> still awaiting DA man:
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> all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
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> all alexander the greats have been hardly great.
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> founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role. >> Stay informed about: actor who totally defined a historical character/ characte.. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:44 pm
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Peter O'Toole as Henry II
William Daniels as John Adams
Glenda Jackson as Elizabeth I
"Neil Coward" <Neil.Coward RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message news:<ckp29u$h31$1@titan.btinternet.com>...
> How about Peter O'Toole as the definitive Lawrence of Arabia?
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> "shlemazeltov" <gonif_mamzer RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1b887f21.0410141121.7b39774d@posting.google.com...
> > complete definitions:
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> > heston-moses. others have played moses but pale in comparison.
> >
> > scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
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> > hopkins-nixon.
> >
> > ---------
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> > still awaiting DA man:
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> > all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
> >
> > all alexander the greats have been hardly great.
> >
> > founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role. >> Stay informed about: actor who totally defined a historical character/ characte.. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:55 pm
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> founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role.
Surely you don't disregard 1776 (1972)? Maybe Ken Howard's Thomas
Jefferson may be incomplete, but William Daniels' John Adams and
Howard DaSilva's Benjamin Franklin are the definitive treatments to
these characters.
Barry Bostwick- George Washington (GEORGE WASHINGTON)
Annette Crosbie- Queen Victoria (EDWARD THE KING)
Brian Blessed- Augustus (I,CLAUDIUS)
John Hurt- Caligula (ditto)
Derek Jacobi- Claudius (ditto)
George Baker- Tiberius (ditto)
Glenda Jackson- Elizabeth I (ELIZABETH R)
Ian Holm- Napoleon (NAPOLEON AND LOVE, EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES)
Robert Morley- Louis XVI (MARIE ANTOINETTE)
Jane Alexander- Eleanor Roosevelt (ELEANOR AND FRANKLIN)
Peter O'Toole- Henry II (LION IN WINTER)
Katherine Hepburn- Eleanor of Acquitaine (ditto)
Charlton Heston- Cardinal Richelieu (THE THREE MUSKETEERS, THE FOUR
MUSKETEERS)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:23 pm
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Howard Brazee wrote:
> Bob Tiernan wrote:
> > Hopefully someone who sounds like the real Patton.
> > Have you ever heard his voice on a newsreel?
> You don't have to be realistic to take on the role.
> Peter O'Toole was too tall for T. E. Lawrence.
That's minor compared to Patton's voice when you consider
that Patton's voice in the film has become so much a
part of what defined him, while the real man's voice
was very much a part of him to those who worked with
him (in a different way). One staff officer recalled
years later that at 3rd Army headquarters he went into
Patton's office to hand him some papers while Patton
started chewing someone out over the phone in tha
high pitched squeaky voice - the staff officer left
the room and stood outside the door listening and
trying not to laugh at how the voice and the man
were such a mis-match.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:32 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:33 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:08 pm
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anmcco43.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (A. Gerard) wrote in message news:<218787c5.0410151855.3f9e342a.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>...
> >
> > founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role.
>
> Surely you don't disregard 1776 (1972)? Maybe Ken Howard's Thomas
> Jefferson may be incomplete, but William Daniels' John Adams and
> Howard DaSilva's Benjamin Franklin are the definitive treatments to
> these characters.
>
> Barry Bostwick- George Washington (GEORGE WASHINGTON)
>
> Annette Crosbie- Queen Victoria (EDWARD THE KING)
>
> Brian Blessed- Augustus (I,CLAUDIUS)
>
> John Hurt- Caligula (ditto)
>
> Derek Jacobi- Claudius (ditto)
>
> George Baker- Tiberius (ditto)
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> Glenda Jackson- Elizabeth I (ELIZABETH R)
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> Ian Holm- Napoleon (NAPOLEON AND LOVE, EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES)
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> Robert Morley- Louis XVI (MARIE ANTOINETTE)
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> Jane Alexander- Eleanor Roosevelt (ELEANOR AND FRANKLIN)
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> Peter O'Toole- Henry II (LION IN WINTER)
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> Katherine Hepburn- Eleanor of Acquitaine (ditto)
>
> Charlton Heston- Cardinal Richelieu (THE THREE MUSKETEERS, THE FOUR
> MUSKETEERS)
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> A.Magik
i wouldn't call any of these definitive. >> Stay informed about: actor who totally defined a historical character/ characte.. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:09 pm
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gonif_mamzer.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (shlemazeltov) wrote in message news:<1b887f21.0410141121.7b39774d.DeleteThis@posting.google.com>...
> complete definitions:
>
> heston-moses. others have played moses but pale in comparison.
>
> scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
>
> hopkins-nixon.
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> ---------
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> still awaiting DA man:
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> all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
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> all alexander the greats have been hardly great.
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> founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role.
unsatisfying:
washington as macum x
smith as ali. >> Stay informed about: actor who totally defined a historical character/ characte.. |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:19 am
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On 15-Oct-2004, Bob Tiernan <zulu.pacifier.com RemoveThis @shell1.pacifier.net> wrote:
> > scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
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> Hopefully someone who sounds like the real Patton.
> Have you ever heard his voice on a newsreel?
You don't have to be realistic to take on the role. Peter O'Toole was too
tall for T. E. Lawrence. We have no idea what Jesus looked or sounded
like.
You just need to play the role well enough that we accept it instead of
reality. >> Stay informed about: actor who totally defined a historical character/ characte.. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:15 am
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:15 am
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:15 am
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"Bill" <ws21.TakeThisOut@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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> Raymond Massey as Lincoln.
Don Ameche as Alexander Graham Bell in _The Story of Alexander Graham
Bell_(1939). He so owned the role that for some years afterwards the
telephone was known as an ameche.
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Frank in Seattle
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"I leave you now in radiant contentment"
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