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No Man wrote:
> Marilyn due to her traditional work habits is replaced by Doris Day in
> *Move Over, Darling* which was originally being filmed as *Something's
> Got to Give*.
>
>

Much earlier she was suspended from _The Girl in Pink Tights_ and then
_How to be Very, Very Popular_ for refusing to report to work.

--
Frank in Seattle
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"Millennium hand and shrimp."
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In rec.arts.movies.past-films Frank R.A.J. Maloney <frajm RemoveThis @blarg.net> wrote:
: trotsky wrote:

:> Watching Calvin respond to sarcasm is like being a victim of the Bataan
:> Death March.

: For gawdssake, leave the poor schnook alone. Save your cracks for when
: they're really needed -- if ever.

Independent of the issue of whether it's ever worth it to respond to a
troll, I think that when you wrote the above, you failed to realize that
Calvin would probably not know what a "schnook" is. You also failed to
keep in mind that Usenet exists primarily as a means of providing
empirical disproof of the statement "Nobody could possibly be that stupid."

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Richard Schultz wrote:
> In rec.arts.movies.past-films Frank R.A.J. Maloney <frajm.RemoveThis@blarg.net> wrote:
> : trotsky wrote:
>
> :> Watching Calvin respond to sarcasm is like being a victim of the Bataan
> :> Death March.
>
> : For gawdssake, leave the poor schnook alone. Save your cracks for when
> : they're really needed -- if ever.
>
> Independent of the issue of whether it's ever worth it to respond to a
> troll, I think that when you wrote the above, you failed to realize that
> Calvin would probably not know what a "schnook" is. You also failed to
> keep in mind that Usenet exists primarily as a means of providing
> empirical disproof of the statement "Nobody could possibly be that stupid."

You're right on both counts. I should have stood in bed and I should
never have assumed that He Who May Not Be Named would understand what I
wrote.

I will however admit that my first word choice was another Yiddishism of
a related nature. But I thought I'd be a nice guy and not the curmudgeon
nature intended me for.

I won't be making any of those mistakes again, however.

--
Frank in Seattle
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Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
"Millennium hand and shrimp."
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On Oct 25, 1:12 pm, "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" <fr... DeleteThis @blarg.net> wrote:
> Richard Schultz wrote:
> > In rec.arts.movies.past-films Frank R.A.J. Maloney <fr... DeleteThis @blarg.net> wrote:
> > : trotsky wrote:
> > :> Watching Calvin respond to sarcasm is like being a victim of the Bataan
> > :> Death March.
> > : For gawdssake, leave the poor schnook alone. Save your cracks for when
> > : they're really needed -- if ever.
>
> > Independent of the issue of whether it's ever worth it to respond to a
> > troll, I think that when you wrote the above, you failed to realize that
> > Calvin would probably not know what a "schnook" is. You also failed to
> > keep in mind that Usenet exists primarily as a means of providing
> > empirical disproof of the statement "Nobody could possibly be that stupid."
>
> You're right on both counts. I should have stood in bed and I should
> never have assumed that He Who May Not Be Named would understand what I
> wrote.
>
> I will however admit that my first word choice was another Yiddishism of
> a related nature. But I thought I'd be a nice guy and not the curmudgeon
> nature intended me for.
>
> I won't be making any of those mistakes again, however.

The dictionary that is closest to my hand says that 'schnook'
means 'an unimportant or stupid person', which is roughly
what I assumed it meant. I'm curious what the not 'nice'
word you first had in mind was. Come on, I can take it.
I'm sure I've been called worse many times, whatever it is.

>From other threads I had come to think that you were a nice
guy, or at least a fair person, so for you to jump in here and
call be a name like that, when my offense was merely
misreading someone's sarcasm, was a mild shock. Mr.
Schultz coming in to join you was no shock, because that's
what he does.

It certainly would be enlightening for you to tell me in your
own words what my offense was, besides misreading
sarcasm. But you seem to be in full defensive mode now,
and would rather walk off into the sunset hand in hand with
Mr. Schultz, laughing at new Yiddishisms to call me, than to
be honorable and explain yourself.
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No Man <woesong.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Marilyn due to her traditional work habits is replaced by Doris Day in
>*Move Over, Darling* which was originally being filmed as *Something's
>Got to Give*.

And, I just found out yesterday, it was the "My Favorite Wife" story.







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The intro & extra, who con or who sub.
For conversation somehow to occur
Could they perhaps band into a club?

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In rec.arts.movies.past-films Calvin <crice5.RemoveThis@windstream.net> wrote:

: See? You're doing it again. I did nothing wrong in this thread.

That's only because, in your opinion, you *never* do anything wrong.

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There's something I must tell you, there's something I must say:
The only really perfect love is one that gets away.
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Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote:
> Richard Schultz wrote:
>> In rec.arts.movies.past-films Frank R.A.J. Maloney <frajm RemoveThis @blarg.net>
>> wrote:
>> : trotsky wrote:
>>
>> :> Watching Calvin respond to sarcasm is like being a victim of the
>> Bataan :> Death March.
>>
>> : For gawdssake, leave the poor schnook alone. Save your cracks for
>> when : they're really needed -- if ever.
>>
>> Independent of the issue of whether it's ever worth it to respond to a
>> troll, I think that when you wrote the above, you failed to realize that
>> Calvin would probably not know what a "schnook" is. You also failed to
>> keep in mind that Usenet exists primarily as a means of providing
>> empirical disproof of the statement "Nobody could possibly be that
>> stupid."
>
> You're right on both counts. I should have stood in bed and I should
> never have assumed that He Who May Not Be Named would understand what I
> wrote.
>
> I will however admit that my first word choice was another Yiddishism of
> a related nature. But I thought I'd be a nice guy and not the curmudgeon
> nature intended me for.
>
> I won't be making any of those mistakes again, however.


Poor schnook.
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In rec.arts.movies.past-films Frank R.A.J. Maloney <frajm.RemoveThis@blarg.net> wrote:

: I will however admit that my first word choice was another Yiddishism of
: a related nature. But I thought I'd be a nice guy and not the curmudgeon
: nature intended me for.

AFAIK (i.e. basing myself on Leo Rosten, not necessarily the most reliable
of sources), the etymology of "shnook" is unknown, but (unlike "shmo") is
almost certainly not a bowdlerization of the Yiddishism that I think you're
thinking of (if you're thinking of the one that's involved in the punchline
of the joke about the camel).

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Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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"It is better to adopt the simplest explanation, even if it is not simple,
even if it does not explain very much."
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In rec.arts.movies.past-films Calvin <crice5 RemoveThis @windstream.net> wrote:

: The dictionary that is closest to my hand says that 'schnook'
: means 'an unimportant or stupid person', which is roughly
: what I assumed it meant.

The word "shnook" carries with it a connotation of inoffensiveness --
unlike the other word that Mr. Maloney seems to have had in mind. Jack
Lemmon typically played a shnook, Walter Matthau rarely if ever.

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The gardener plants an evergreen whilst trampling on a flower. . .
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Richard Schultz wrote:
> In rec.arts.movies.past-films Calvin <crice5.DeleteThis@windstream.net> wrote:
>
> : The dictionary that is closest to my hand says that 'schnook'
> : means 'an unimportant or stupid person', which is roughly
> : what I assumed it meant.
>
> The word "shnook" carries with it a connotation of inoffensiveness --
> unlike the other word that Mr. Maloney seems to have had in mind. Jack
> Lemmon typically played a shnook, Walter Matthau rarely if ever.

I keep associating "shnook" as what the little chicken-hawk kept
mistaking Foghorn Leghorn for.

Derek Janssen (loudmouth, that is)
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Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote:
> No Man wrote:
>
>> Marilyn due to her traditional work habits is replaced by Doris Day in
>> *Move Over, Darling* which was originally being filmed as *Something's
>> Got to Give*.
>
> Much earlier she was suspended from _The Girl in Pink Tights_ and then
> _How to be Very, Very Popular_ for refusing to report to work.

Boy, were they slavedrivers back during the Studio Era or what?
Expecting a poor girl to report to work. Weren't there child labor laws?

Meanwhile, up the coast a ways, Brando keeps the entire company of
expensive stars and plenteous extras waiting for the sun off Pfeiffer
Beach to glint against the waves just precisely the way he wanted.
*One-Eyed Jacks* had no eyes left for the budget.

Cheaper to shoot around Marilyn, I think, than hiring an auteur amateur
director.

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have always called me.' - Odyssey; Book IX
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In article <1193266631.594317.123830.TakeThisOut@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Madman <amarsh07.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Oct 24, 6:33 pm, "Paul B. Thompson" <mra....TakeThisOut@isp.com> wrote:
> > "Richard Schultz" <schu....TakeThisOut@mail.biu.ack.il> wrote in message
> >
> > news:ffnt6e$lin$3@news.iucc.ac.il...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In rec.arts.movies.past-films Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
> >
> > > : Michael Keaton replaced by Jeff Daniels well into
> > > : shooting The Purple Rose of Cairo
> >
> > > Virtually the entire cast of _September_ replaced by virtually the
> > > entire cast of _September_ after the film had already been shot
> >
> > > Roy Thinnes replaced by William Devane two days into the shooting of
> > > _Family Plot_
> >
> > > Maria Schneider replaced by Carole Bouquet replaced by Angela Molina
> > > (or was it Bouquet who replaced Molina) during the filming of _That
> > > Obscure Object of Desire_
> >
> > > Bela Lugosi replaced by Tom Mason during the filming of _Plan 9 from
> > > Outer Space_
> >
> > Well, not really. Lugosi died years earlier. Wood had some silent "home
> > movie" footage he wanted to spin a feature around. Tom Mason is more of a
> > stand-in than a replacement, especially since he got no billing, that I
> > recall.
> >
> > PBT- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Can't believe everyone missed that Tom Selleck was replaced by
> Harrison Ford for Indiana Jones in Raiders of the Lost Ark because CBS
> wouldn't let him out of his contract for Magnum PI. Can't remember
> where I saw it, but someone did a poster from Raiders with Selleck on
> it. Funny how I now look back and mostly can't see the original actors
> in these roles.

Selleck wasn't replaced; CBS wouldn't let him take the part in the first
place. But yeah, that poster is great.

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David Oberman wrote:
> No Man <woesong.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Marilyn due to her traditional work habits is replaced by Doris Day in
>>*Move Over, Darling* which was originally being filmed as *Something's
>>Got to Give*.
>
> And, I just found out yesterday, it was the "My Favorite Wife" story.

I saw that on IMDb, but I wasn't familiar with the original story. But,
hey, for every Penelope at her loom for twenty years there is an ex who
moves on. Like in Castaway, and who knows how many other films. Then
there is the other effect, the dubious returnee, as in Martin Guerre.



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have always called me.' - Odyssey; Book IX
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