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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:48 am
Post subject: Should I go back to Redford Theatre, MI? Are rude people with kids a consistent problem there?
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This weekend the Redford Theatre in Redford, Michigan is showing Douglas
Fairbank's MARK OF ZORRO. However, I am very leery of going back there.
I discovered this place about a year ago and live over 110 miles away. I've
had been there a few times so far, however, my last couple times were
totally ruined with frustration because of people bringing in little kids
and letting them be very noisy, or worse, running around the theatre during
the movie with staff seeing but doing anything about it.
Is this a consistent problem at that place?
The last time I was there, I saw the August 18th showing of the Frank
Sinatra / Gene Kelly musical "On The Town."
A man had four kids with him, three looked under 5 years old and another
about 13. All were running around, squealing and rolling in the aisles in
the auditorium for the entire duration of the film (I am not exaggerating)
and despite Redford staff members being in the auditorium, they did nothing
to quiet them down.
Most of the time the kids were LITERALLY louder than the film. Dialog was
inaudible anywhere I moved to in the theatre, including the balcony. The
shameless man may as well have put the kids up on the stage as he did
nothing to control the brats. Just sat there like nothing was going on.
I noticed many of the several hundred audience members squirming in their
seats every time the little darlings let out a squeal. They paid to be
there and I bet you most had that movie marked on their calendars, too.
Those were the worst behaved brats I've seen in a theatre since the late
1980s.
Theatre staff did nothing.
Something similar also happened month before at the Redford's showing of
the restored King Kong.
My whole day and trip was built around seeing that film, which included a
restaurant in Ferndale and a few other favorite places. I thought I could
expect more from a theatre built in 1928 showing classic films.
Driving home from "On The Town" I swore to myself I will NEVER go to the
Redford Theatre again until they raise the ticket prices from $4 - $5 to the
$7 - $8 range. However, now they are showing a silent film.
$10 admission this time.
What do you think I should do? Save about $85 and do something else
Saturday or risk seeing this film?
I'd like to see the movie but all my intuition is saying "don't bother."
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:48 am
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On Sep 19, 10:48 pm, "Darren" <dnemet....RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote:
> This weekend the Redford Theatre in Redford, Michigan is showing Douglas
> Fairbank's MARK OF ZORRO. However, I am very leery of going back there.
>
> I discovered this place about a year ago and live over 110 miles away. I've
> had been there a few times so far, however, my last couple times were
> totally ruined with frustration because of people bringing in little kids
> and letting them be very noisy, or worse, running around the theatre during
> the movie with staff seeing but doing anything about it.
>
> Is this a consistent problem at that place?
>
> The last time I was there, I saw the August 18th showing of the Frank
> Sinatra / Gene Kelly musical "On The Town."
>
> A man had four kids with him, three looked under 5 years old and another
> about 13. All were running around, squealing and rolling in the aisles in
> the auditorium for the entire duration of the film (I am not exaggerating)
> and despite Redford staff members being in the auditorium, they did nothing
> to quiet them down.
>
> Most of the time the kids were LITERALLY louder than the film. Dialog was
> inaudible anywhere I moved to in the theatre, including the balcony. The
> shameless man may as well have put the kids up on the stage as he did
> nothing to control the brats. Just sat there like nothing was going on.
>
> I noticed many of the several hundred audience members squirming in their
> seats every time the little darlings let out a squeal. They paid to be
> there and I bet you most had that movie marked on their calendars, too.
>
> Those were the worst behaved brats I've seen in a theatre since the late
> 1980s.
>
> Theatre staff did nothing.
>
> Something similar also happened month before at the Redford's showing of
> the restored King Kong.
>
> My whole day and trip was built around seeing that film, which included a
> restaurant in Ferndale and a few other favorite places. I thought I could
> expect more from a theatre built in 1928 showing classic films.
>
> Driving home from "On The Town" I swore to myself I will NEVER go to the
> Redford Theatre again until they raise the ticket prices from $4 - $5 to the
> $7 - $8 range. However, now they are showing a silent film.
>
> $10 admission this time.
>
> What do you think I should do? Save about $85 and do something else
> Saturday or risk seeing this film?
>
> I'd like to see the movie but all my intuition is saying "don't bother."
>
> Darren Nemeth
At the risk of stating the obvious: did you (or anyone) complain? The
staff will probably not do anything unless someone does. Complain. If
nothing happens, complain again. Then ask to see the manager. If
necessary, demand your money back and tell them you'll never return.
Suffering in silence will not get you anywhere.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:48 am
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Darren filted:
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>A man had four kids with him, three looked under 5 years old and another
>about 13. All were running around, squealing and rolling in the aisles in
>the auditorium for the entire duration of the film (I am not exaggerating)
>and despite Redford staff members being in the auditorium, they did nothing
>to quiet them down.
>
>Most of the time the kids were LITERALLY louder than the film. Dialog was
>inaudible anywhere I moved to in the theatre, including the balcony. The
>shameless man may as well have put the kids up on the stage as he did
>nothing to control the brats. Just sat there like nothing was going on.
>
>I noticed many of the several hundred audience members squirming in their
>seats every time the little darlings let out a squeal. They paid to be
>there and I bet you most had that movie marked on their calendars, too.
Pack a good-sized water pistol...fill it with cider vinegar...allow your own
reasoned judgement to decide if, when and how it should be discharged....r
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:48 am
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On Sep 20, 1:30 am, precode <michael_schlesin....DeleteThis@spe.sony.com> wrote:
> On Sep 19, 10:48 pm, "Darren" <dnemet....DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:
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> > This weekend the Redford Theatre in Redford, Michigan is showing Douglas
> > Fairbank's MARK OF ZORRO. However, I am very leery of going back there.
>
> > I discovered this place about a year ago and live over 110 miles away. I've
> > had been there a few times so far, however, my last couple times were
> > totally ruined with frustration because of people bringing in little kids
> > and letting them be very noisy, or worse, running around the theatre during
> > the movie with staff seeing but doing anything about it.
>
> > Is this a consistent problem at that place?
>
> > The last time I was there, I saw the August 18th showing of the Frank
> > Sinatra / Gene Kelly musical "On The Town."
>
> > A man had four kids with him, three looked under 5 years old and another
> > about 13. All were running around, squealing and rolling in the aisles in
> > the auditorium for the entire duration of the film (I am not exaggerating)
> > and despite Redford staff members being in the auditorium, they did nothing
> > to quiet them down.
>
> > Most of the time the kids were LITERALLY louder than the film. Dialog was
> > inaudible anywhere I moved to in the theatre, including the balcony. The
> > shameless man may as well have put the kids up on the stage as he did
> > nothing to control the brats. Just sat there like nothing was going on.
>
> > I noticed many of the several hundred audience members squirming in their
> > seats every time the little darlings let out a squeal. They paid to be
> > there and I bet you most had that movie marked on their calendars, too.
>
> > Those were the worst behaved brats I've seen in a theatre since the late
> > 1980s.
>
> > Theatre staff did nothing.
>
> > Something similar also happened month before at the Redford's showing of
> > the restored King Kong.
>
> > My whole day and trip was built around seeing that film, which included a
> > restaurant in Ferndale and a few other favorite places. I thought I could
> > expect more from a theatre built in 1928 showing classic films.
>
> > Driving home from "On The Town" I swore to myself I will NEVER go to the
> > Redford Theatre again until they raise the ticket prices from $4 - $5 to the
> > $7 - $8 range. However, now they are showing a silent film.
>
> > $10 admission this time.
>
> > What do you think I should do? Save about $85 and do something else
> > Saturday or risk seeing this film?
>
> > I'd like to see the movie but all my intuition is saying "don't bother."
>
> > Darren Nemeth
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious: did you (or anyone) complain? The
> staff will probably not do anything unless someone does. Complain. If
> nothing happens, complain again. Then ask to see the manager. If
> necessary, demand your money back and tell them you'll never return.
> Suffering in silence will not get you anywhere.
>
> Mike S.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
I agree with Mike. A lazy parent won't do anything about his kids
unless you complain to the theater management. Most theaters have a
small staff, and don't monitor the auditoriums after a film starts.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:30 am
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Bruce Calvert wrote:
>>At the risk of stating the obvious: did you (or anyone) complain? The
>>staff will probably not do anything unless someone does. Complain. If
>>nothing happens, complain again. Then ask to see the manager. If
>>necessary, demand your money back and tell them you'll never return.
>>Suffering in silence will not get you anywhere.
>>
>>Mike S.
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> I agree with Mike. A lazy parent won't do anything about his kids
> unless you complain to the theater management. Most theaters have a
> small staff, and don't monitor the auditoriums after a film starts.
Even if a staffer sees the bad behavior, he or she is not likely to take
the initiative to correct it if no one complains. Why risk offending
one customer, the negligent parent, if no one else is bothered by what
his kids are doing? On the other hand, if one annoyed customer takes
the initiative to complain, other customers are likely to feel free to
add their voices -- but of course everyone is reluctant to be the first
voice. That just seems to be the social dynamic of movie theaters
today. There isn't a clear consensus about what is or isn't acceptable
behavior and staffers are reactive, not active, in most situations.
Mar de Cortes Baja
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:25 am
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I am a music teacher in a middle school in the suburbs of NY. My
school district is a VERY affluent one. When we have our winter and
spring concerts for our school performing groups the audience, which
is made up of the families of the kids in the band, orchestra and
chorus are the rudest bunch of schlepps. They all bring their other
children and let them run up and down the isles, slide down the isle
railings and last June one toddler was allowed to run up on the stage
and start hitting the woman teacher who was on the podium conducting
the orchestra.
Our principal, and assistant principal make very weak, spineless
announcements at the beginning of the concerts asking the parents to
try and kind of keep an eye on the other children who have been
brought to the concerts, if it is OK with them...The toddler who
actually ran up on stage-his mother was in the audience on her cell
phone during the performance. When a faculty member walk out of the
wings to ever so gently "guide" (do not TOUCH!) the toddler back
towards the audience, the mother acused the faculty of embarrassing
her by making it obvious that we were not happy about what her kid
did, and our cuckhold principal issued an apology to this "parent".
She argues that her kid had A.D.D. That's all you hear today..."My kid
has A.D.D. and he/she can't help it.
If you did complained to the management, or squirted them with the
cidar vinegar water pistol, you probably would've been hit with a law
suit for picking on the handicaped because EVERYONE has A.D.D. today
and that has turned into a liscense to behave badly, and an excuse for
parents not to do their job.
Signed,
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:53 am
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On Sep 20, 6:25 am, gerbonzo <gerbin... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> She argues that her kid had A.D.D. That's all you hear today..."My kid
> has A.D.D. and he/she can't help it.
One of my sons does have ADHD, but he's nine now and he knows that
there would be consequences if he went up on stage. He's actually very
well behaved, but the ADHD comes out when he is in a loud room with a
lot of people talking loudly at once. He can't handle a lot of visual
and sound stimulation at once. Also, he is learning the piano, and is
able to sit quietly and listen to the other students play during his
recitals -- although he doesn't always remember what the other
students did later. This lady is probably lying anyway, because
doctors are reluctant to diagnose ADD or ADHD before about the age of
six.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:59 pm
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> At the risk of stating the obvious: did you (or anyone) complain? The
> staff will probably not do anything unless someone does. Complain. If
> nothing happens, complain again. Then ask to see the manager. If
> necessary, demand your money back and tell them you'll never return.
> Suffering in silence will not get you anywhere.
>
> Mike S.
I didn't complain probably because I was hoping the staff who were right
there were going to do it and I was getting too angry.
Believe me, the next time, if there is a next time, I WILL.
Darren
(they also have a projectionist who does not focus the picture. From the
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:12 pm
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:58 pm
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I started out in customer service, and our rule of thumb was, for every
person who complains, there are ten more who agree, but didn't speak up. So
this manager would be well advised to heed even one complaint; don't be shy!
A free movie at a library or a school is one thing, but paying customers are
really entitled to an entertainment experience commensurate with their
investment.
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Yours for bigger and better silents,
William D. Ferry
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> Bruce Calvert wrote:
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>>>At the risk of stating the obvious: did you (or anyone) complain? The
>>>staff will probably not do anything unless someone does. Complain. If
>>>nothing happens, complain again. Then ask to see the manager. If
>>>necessary, demand your money back and tell them you'll never return.
>>>Suffering in silence will not get you anywhere.
>>>
>>>Mike S.
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>> I agree with Mike. A lazy parent won't do anything about his kids
>> unless you complain to the theater management. Most theaters have a
>> small staff, and don't monitor the auditoriums after a film starts.
>
> Even if a staffer sees the bad behavior, he or she is not likely to take
> the initiative to correct it if no one complains. Why risk offending one
> customer, the negligent parent, if no one else is bothered by what his
> kids are doing? On the other hand, if one annoyed customer takes the
> initiative to complain, other customers are likely to feel free to add
> their voices -- but of course everyone is reluctant to be the first voice.
> That just seems to be the social dynamic of movie theaters today. There
> isn't a clear consensus about what is or isn't acceptable behavior and
> staffers are reactive, not active, in most situations.
>
> Mar de Cortes Baja
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> www.mardecortesbaja.com <http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog> >> Stay informed about: Should I go back to Redford Theatre, MI? Are rude people w.. |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:19 am
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A few years ago Alloy did a morning show for the grade school in
Telluride CO, kids exclusively from kindergarten to the second grade.
We performed Speedy by Harold Lloyd. The kids were pretty well
behaved for a while, but started to get bored. The film has a
somewhat slow buildup, and the kids started to lose interest. When
the film started to kick into high gear, about the time there's the
big fight between the evil transit authority and the army of
octogenarian veterans from the civil war, the children livened up. As
the battle continued, the kids were jumping out of their seats hitting
each other over the head and yelling at their fictional opponents.
The bedlam continued through the end of the film.
The teachers looked a little nervous through the end of the show, and
the principal came up to us and apologized.
The guys in Alloy now consider that our favorite screening ever. The
kids were a riot and had the most wonderful time. Watching them from
stage was even more fun for us, and spurred us on to do a truly
spirited show.
I would be surprised if The Mark of Zorro didn't end up somewhat like
this. It's really a perfect film for kids, and their reactions to
Fairbanks' antics should be more fun than the film itself with the
most obviious ADD and ask them if they will share their Ritalin
perscription with you - that should help get you in the mood.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:46 am
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On Sep 20, 2:59 pm, "Darren" <dnemet... DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote:
> (they also have a projectionist who does not focus the picture. From the
> balcony it seems sharp but from the first 5 rows it is blured.)
Fortunately for me, I'm lucky enough to live in an area where there
are more than just a handful of repertory cinemas (and I network with
collectors, being able to run prints).
I've simply stopped frequenting theaters with bad projection and bad
audiences. My time, money and desire to see film correctly are just
too precious to be dealing with that sort of nonsense. Good
programming may be an asset, but there is no reason that anyone should
sit in a smelly, concrete bunker watching a screen the size of a
postage stamp, with picture out of focus and frame and with derelicts
off of the street that haven't bathed in months and think that
EVERYTHING in a dramatic film is funny.
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