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(Msg. 46) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:22 pm
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On Oct 24, 3:13 pm, smee <cookmichaelchar....TakeThisOut@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2:06 pm, Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote (in part):
> > Not unlike those heel-clickers who wore swastikas.
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> Godwin's Law.
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:04 pm
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In article <1193233082.733729.51180.TakeThisOut@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, Calvin <crice5.TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
:> :> One person called you stupid, and I think you have to give him a break,
:> :> since he hasn't seen his wife and son in more than a decade.
:> : I can't know that unless someone tells me.
:> <insert sound of hand slapping forehead>
: Tell me a lie and I'm going to believe you, unless I have a
: reason not to believe you. I don't plan to change that, no
: matter how many times you slap your forehead.
The forehead slap (in lieu of hitting my head against the wall) was due
to disbelief that any educated person could fail to get the allusion --
especially since "No Man" took the trouble of including the origin of
his pseudonym in his .sig file. Which, FWIW, proves that he's not as
clever as he thinks he is -- if he were that clever, he would have assumed
that any Westerner who had a reasonable education would have realized where
he got his pseudonym without needing any help. Actually, if he were that
clever, he would have included an allusion to the Pelennor Fields (not the
actual quote, mind you).
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Richard Schultz schultr.TakeThisOut@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:04 pm
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In article <ffnr4b2cig.RemoveThis@enews4.newsguy.com>, No Man <woesong.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Calvin wrote:
:> Now there's a statement that I know is false. I'm not
:> biting this time.
:
: Here's another: *All* my statements are false.
I thought you were from Ithaca.
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Richard Schultz schultr.RemoveThis@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:09 pm
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Calvin <crice5.TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
>> > Not unlike those heel-clickers who wore swastikas.
>>
>> Godwin's Law.
>
>Quirk's Exception
David's Googling
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Consider the verts: the in & the per,
The intro & extra, who con or who sub.
For conversation somehow to occur
Could they perhaps band into a club?
-- John Simon, "Of verts" (2007) >> Stay informed about: OK |
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:49 pm
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On Oct 24, 5:01 pm, schu... DeleteThis @mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
> In article <1193252813.714953.109... DeleteThis @q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Calvin <cri... DeleteThis @windstream.net> wrote:
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> : The fact is, though, that when you said the person calling me
> : stupid hadn't seen his wife and son in a decade, the Odyssey
> : reference didn't pop into my mind, nor when you slapped your
> : forehead.
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> I can't help it if you cannot see what is right in front of you.
No, because I am a good person who believes what he
is told, unless there is a reason not to. I never tell lies
so that I can try to humiliate someone for believing me.
Not being that sort of person, I don't expect others to
be like that. The good are always at a disadvantage
against the bad, according to the rules of the bad. >> Stay informed about: OK |
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:04 pm
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On Oct 24, 2:06 pm, Calvin <cri... RemoveThis @windstream.net> wrote (in part):
> Not unlike those heel-clickers who wore swastikas.
Godwin's Law.
Yrs,
Michael >> Stay informed about: OK |
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:39 pm
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:10:18 -0700, Calvin <crice5.DeleteThis@windstream.net>
wrote:
>> Here's another: *All* my statements are false.
>
>We all have heard such paradoxes.
In this case it isn't a paradox. It is a lie. Some of his
statements are true, some are false. >> Stay informed about: OK |
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:02 pm
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Calvin wrote:
> On Oct 24, 5:01 pm, schu....RemoveThis@mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
>> In article <1193252813.714953.109....RemoveThis@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Calvin <cri....RemoveThis@windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> : The fact is, though, that when you said the person calling me
>> : stupid hadn't seen his wife and son in a decade, the Odyssey
>> : reference didn't pop into my mind, nor when you slapped your
>> : forehead.
>>
>> I can't help it if you cannot see what is right in front of you.
>
> No, because I am a good person who believes what he
> is told, unless there is a reason not to. I never tell lies
> so that I can try to humiliate someone for believing me.
> Not being that sort of person, I don't expect others to
> be like that. The good are always at a disadvantage
> against the bad, according to the rules of the bad.
>
Believing everything you're told doesn't make you a Good Person, it
makes you a victim. Use your native intelligence and shift and weigh and
consider sources and all those other basic things to decide whom or what
to take at face value. Unless of course you like being victim, in which
case never mind.
--
Frank in Seattle
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Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
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(Msg. 54) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:09 pm
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On Oct 24, 12:17 pm, No Man <woes....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There's a story in our town about that Civil War going down. And lots of
> scum rose up in that cesspool, as in other wars, which is the very
> reason for the present one. And into our village loped a scoundrel, now
> made a captain of a squad of horse in the rebel army. And our fearless
> and plainspoke blacksmith, an eldery gent with the modern name of C C
> Ridings, scoffed at the new officer openly. "Why, he's nothing but a
> hossthief who has been ridden out of the territory!"
>
> So the newly-minted officer rode into the blacksmith shop with three
> horse under arms and proclaimed, "Sir, I don't appreciated bein' called
> a hossthief," whereupon Mr Ridings replied, "Sir, I'd suggest you stop
> stealing horses."
>
> The best moral for this story is:
Though you attached your post to mine, you didn't quote
anyone, so I may or may not assume that it is directed
toward me. I choose not. Normally I would jump right in
to a little challenge like this, but I have already learned
an unpleasant moral concerning your posts. >> Stay informed about: OK |
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(Msg. 55) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:26 pm
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"Frank R.A.J. Maloney" <frajm.TakeThisOut@blarg.net> wrote in article
>Believing everything you're told doesn't make you a Good Person, it
>makes you a victim. Use your native intelligence and shift and weigh and
>consider sources and all those other basic things to decide whom or what
>to take at face value. Unless of course you like being victim, in which
>case never mind.
Sir, since you gratuitously called me a 'poor schnook' in
another thread, in which I had done no wrong whatsoever,
it appears that you like to create victims. I had thought
better of you than that. But now I would appreciate it
if you would give me no more advice. >> Stay informed about: OK |
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(Msg. 56) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:41 pm
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On Oct 24, 9:08 pm, smee <cookmichaelchar....TakeThisOut@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2:22 pm, Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 3:13 pm, smee <cookmichaelchar....TakeThisOut@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 24, 2:06 pm, Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote (in part):
> > > > Not unlike those heel-clickers who wore swastikas.
> > > Godwin's Law.
> > Quirk's Exception
>
> Your continued contribution to this thread suggests that you don't
> really understand Quirk's Exception except as some sort of reflexive
> response to the invocation of Godwin's Law. In any case, RGB's
> Restriction of Quirk's Exception would doubtless apply here.
Doubtless, but it's too late. The thread has moved on from
the point where you tried to apply Godwin's law, and no longer
contains any substance that merits a re-application. If you
had stayed with it, you would have a much stronger case.
I hope you enjoyed your dinner. >> Stay informed about: OK |
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(Msg. 57) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:05 pm
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In article <1193252813.714953.109960.TakeThisOut@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Calvin <crice5.TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
: The fact is, though, that when you said the person calling me
: stupid hadn't seen his wife and son in a decade, the Odyssey
: reference didn't pop into my mind, nor when you slapped your
: forehead.
I can't help it if you cannot see what is right in front of you.
: You seem to think that my mind should be tuned
: in to your mental connections; simply because it is YOU, I
: suppose. I'm not tuned in to the way you think, and I don't
: want to be. You are a horrible person, in my estimation, for
: whom your massive ego justifies whatever you choose to do.
What is *your* justification for *your* belief that you can do whatever
you choose to do?
: Not unlike those heel-clickers who wore swastikas.
Which is further proof of your inability to stop making a complete
fool of yourself -- as if any were needed.
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Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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". . . for while he was not dumber than an ox, he was not any smarter."
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(Msg. 58) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:31 pm
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On Oct 24, 11:57 pm, smee <cookmichaelchar....DeleteThis@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 8:41 pm, Calvin <cri....DeleteThis@windstream.net> wrote:
> > On Oct 24, 9:08 pm, smee <cookmichaelchar....DeleteThis@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > > On Oct 24, 2:22 pm, Calvin <cri....DeleteThis@windstream.net> wrote:
> > > > On Oct 24, 3:13 pm, smee <cookmichaelchar....DeleteThis@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Oct 24, 2:06 pm, Calvin <cri....DeleteThis@windstream.net> wrote (in part):
> > > > > > Not unlike those heel-clickers who wore swastikas.
> > > > > Godwin's Law.
> > > > Quirk's Exception
> > > Your continued contribution to this thread suggests that you don't
> > > really understand Quirk's Exception except as some sort of reflexive
> > > response to the invocation of Godwin's Law. In any case, RGB's
> > > Restriction of Quirk's Exception would doubtless apply here.
> > Doubtless, but it's too late. The thread has moved on from
> > the point where you tried to apply Godwin's law, and no longer
> > contains any substance that merits a re-application. If you
> > had stayed with it, you would have a much stronger case.
> > I hope you enjoyed your dinner.
>
> Utter nonsense, of course. Sorry to be harsh, but you come across as
> someone bluffing their way through an argument, making it all up as
> they go along and hoping that no one notices or comments on the
> logical fallacies.
>
> The last word (if you need one) shall be yours; I'm not wasting any
> more time on a thread so meaningless or with an individual so obtuse.
But you were not invited. It's true that I referred to Mr. Schultz
in Nazi terms, but that was quite unnecesary, merely tacked
onto what I had said about his harsh manner. I could have
stripped off those words then and there with no change to my
meaning, and as you can see I never resorted to their use
again. My behavior was instantly reformed from the moment
you injected Godwin's Law. So I don't see why you needed to
harass me further. If I had not instantly reformed, then you
could legitimately call me obtuse. You're welcome to have
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(Msg. 59) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:03 pm
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On Oct 24, 2:22 pm, Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 3:13 pm, smee <cookmichaelchar....TakeThisOut@satx.rr.com> wrote:
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> > On Oct 24, 2:06 pm, Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote (in part):
> > > Not unlike those heel-clickers who wore swastikas.
>
> > Godwin's Law.
>
> Quirk's Exception
Your continued contribution to this thread suggests that you don't
really understand Quirk's Exception except as some sort of reflexive
response to the invocation of Godwin's Law. In any case, RGB's
Restriction of Quirk's Exception would doubtless apply here.
Yrs,
Michael >> Stay informed about: OK |
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(Msg. 60) Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:11 pm
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On Oct 24, 6:39 pm, Howard Brazee <how....TakeThisOut@brazee.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
> > No Man wrote:
> > > Here's another: *All* my statements are false.
> >We all have heard such paradoxes.
> In this case it isn't a paradox. It is a lie. Some of his
> statements are true, some are false.
I'm not so sure. I see your point; but if
*All* my statements are false.
then
*This* statement is false.
is implied. And that is a paradox. >> Stay informed about: OK |
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