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Rich

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:19 am
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Compare the grandeur that was "Die Hard"
with "Flightplan." Hollywood movies have lost their
majesty, power and scope.
King Kong is coming. Will it equal Jurassic Park (early 1990s)
for impressiveness? I doubt it. In fact, it will
probably come off as quaint to the jaded video-game fed
generation. They'll watch it, glancing at the text messages on their
cell phones every 15 minutes, then they'll leave, without clapping
or cheering. Hollywood's technology for making films has not
kept up with the rest of the technological world. While other forms
of entertainment have gotten more spectacular, Hollywood has
languished.
-Rich

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:19 am
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I love "Die Hard", but comparing it to "Flight Plan" sort of falls
short. Either it's a classic, and therefore unfair to compare to an
off-season thriller, or the movie is a dumb blockbuster, which makes
reminiscing over pointless. Perhaps none of this year's action movies
are up to par with it, but very few of its own peers were as good.

And "Jurrassic Park" was nothing more than a World's Fair of CGI
technology. In fact, out of all of Speilberg's sci-fi films, it lacks
the most heart, brains and soul. It's the least challenging film in a
filmography that gets a lot of complaints for softening its edges. I
don't know how good <b>King Kong</b> will be, but many megablockbusters
that have been released since then trounce it in quality.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:38 am
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Rich wrote:
> Compare the grandeur that was "Die Hard"
> with "Flightplan." Hollywood movies have lost their
> majesty, power and scope.
> King Kong is coming. Will it equal Jurassic Park (early 1990s)
> for impressiveness? I doubt it. In fact, it will
> probably come off as quaint to the jaded video-game fed
> generation. They'll watch it, glancing at the text messages on their
> cell phones every 15 minutes, then they'll leave, without clapping
> or cheering. Hollywood's technology for making films has not
> kept up with the rest of the technological world. While other forms
> of entertainment have gotten more spectacular, Hollywood has
> languished.


Hollywood's technology has kept up with the rest of thetechnological
world. that's part of the problem. It leads to built in obsolescence.
I caught a few minutes of
Starship Troopers the other night and the effects work looked like
something you'd see on the Sci-Fi Channel. Now, that the movies have
caught up with the comic books and filmmakers can literally show any
spectcular thing they want, the audience has gotten jaded and they're
not impressed by special effects anymore.

Flightplan isn't being sold as a special effects film, it's being sold
as a Jodie Foster action thriller. The films that have gotten
Hollywood out of its slump as of late--The Wedding Crashers, 40-Year
Old Virgin, Exorcism of Emily Rose, and now Flight Plan aren't effects
films. It's not that audiences have become too sophisticated for
something like The Island or Stealth (which both would've been hits a
few years ago), it's that effects have gotten so good, that there's no
way you can impress an audience visually anymore. People won't go see
King Kong for the effects. They'll go see it because it was directed
by Peter Jackson or they'll go see it because they want to see if it
stacks up against the original or because the story is compelling
enough that even if you don't know anything about Jackson or the
original Kong you'll want to see it. And no matter how goo the effects
work is, in a few years it'll look like something the Sci-Fi Channel is
doing.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:10 pm
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Rich wrote:

> Compare the grandeur that was "Die Hard"


Uh oh, somebody's been taking mescaline again.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 4:09 pm
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On 27 Sep 2005 05:38:32 -0700, "Nick Macpherson" <NMacphe421 DeleteThis @AOL.com>
wrote:

>Rich wrote:
>> Compare the grandeur that was "Die Hard"
>> with "Flightplan." Hollywood movies have lost their
>> majesty, power and scope.
>> King Kong is coming. Will it equal Jurassic Park (early 1990s)
>> for impressiveness? I doubt it. In fact, it will
>> probably come off as quaint to the jaded video-game fed
>> generation. They'll watch it, glancing at the text messages on their
>> cell phones every 15 minutes, then they'll leave, without clapping
>> or cheering. Hollywood's technology for making films has not
>> kept up with the rest of the technological world. While other forms
>> of entertainment have gotten more spectacular, Hollywood has
>> languished.
>
>
>Hollywood's technology has kept up with the rest of thetechnological
>world. that's part of the problem. It leads to built in obsolescence.
> I caught a few minutes of
>Starship Troopers the other night and the effects work looked like
>something you'd see on the Sci-Fi Channel. Now, that the movies have
>caught up with the comic books and filmmakers can literally show any
>spectcular thing they want, the audience has gotten jaded and they're
>not impressed by special effects anymore.

Actually, Starship Troopers had some of the most detailed models ever
used in a Scifi. That's why it cost what it did. It certainly wasn't
salaries. IMO, FX have stagnated in terms of quality over the past
decade, with little or no improvement and I think the reason is that
the studios are spending less and less on them than before, in many
cases.
-Rich
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:33 pm
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"trotsky" <gmsingh.TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote in message
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> Rich wrote:
>
>> Compare the grandeur that was "Die Hard"
>
>
> Uh oh, somebody's been taking mescaline again.

Oh leave him alone, he's just found out that it's not just for pissing
through.
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