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Feuillade

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(Msg. 76) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:16 am
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John Harkness wrote:

> On 24 Oct 2005 08:45:28 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:

>> John Harkness wrote:

>>> On 24 Oct 2005 05:14:49 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> John Harkness wrote:

>>>>> Avalon has more old ethnic guys bitching about
>>>>> how things were better in the old country.

>>>> If that's all you saw in that movie I find that
>>>> deeply sad.

>>> On the grand scale, that's basically what it's about.
>>> He's trying to excorcise his family but sinks into
>>> nostalgia.

>> That's a little like saying that "Citizen Kane" is
>> about a guy who never got over losing his sled.

> That's exactly what Citizen Kane's about.

Your arguments just get sadder and sadder...

Tom Moran

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(Msg. 77) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:24 am
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John Harkness wrote:

> On 24 Oct 2005 11:16:37 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:

>> Your arguments just get sadder and sadder...

> Well, as your arguments for Levinson's bloated
> nostalgia piece are non-existent...

And I suppose your attacks on it are pearls of Thomistic reasoning?

Give me a break. If you don't like the film, that's your problem.

It will be around long after you're gone.

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John Harkness

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(Msg. 78) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:50 am
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On 24 Oct 2005 08:45:28 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:

>John Harkness wrote:
>
>> On 24 Oct 2005 05:14:49 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> John Harkness wrote:
>
>>>> Avalon has more old ethnic guys bitching about
>>>> how things were better in the old country.
>
>>> If that's all you saw in that movie I find that
>>> deeply sad.
>
>> On the grand scale, that's basically what it's about.
>> He's trying to excorcise his family but sinks into nostalgia.
>
>That's a little like saying that "Citizen Kane" is about a guy who
>never got over losing his sled.
>
>Tom Moran

That's exactly what Citizen Kane's about.

It's all in the execution, of course.

John Harkness
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(Msg. 79) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:19 pm
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On 24 Oct 2005 11:16:37 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:

>John Harkness wrote:
>
>> On 24 Oct 2005 08:45:28 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> John Harkness wrote:
>
>>>> On 24 Oct 2005 05:14:49 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> John Harkness wrote:
>
>>>>>> Avalon has more old ethnic guys bitching about
>>>>>> how things were better in the old country.
>
>>>>> If that's all you saw in that movie I find that
>>>>> deeply sad.
>
>>>> On the grand scale, that's basically what it's about.
>>>> He's trying to excorcise his family but sinks into
>>>> nostalgia.
>
>>> That's a little like saying that "Citizen Kane" is
>>> about a guy who never got over losing his sled.
>
>> That's exactly what Citizen Kane's about.
>
>Your arguments just get sadder and sadder...
>
>Tom Moran

Well, as your arguments for Levinson's bloated nostalgia piece are
non-existent...

John Harkness
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John Harkness

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(Msg. 80) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:27 pm
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On 24 Oct 2005 11:24:39 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:

>John Harkness wrote:
>
>> On 24 Oct 2005 11:16:37 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> Your arguments just get sadder and sadder...
>
>> Well, as your arguments for Levinson's bloated
>> nostalgia piece are non-existent...
>
>And I suppose your attacks on it are pearls of Thomistic reasoning?
>
>Give me a break. If you don't like the film, that's your problem.
>
>It will be around long after you're gone.
>
>Tom Moran


So will Can't Stop The Music and Xanadu and Plan 9 From Outer Space.

What's your point?

John Harkness
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(Msg. 81) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:13 pm
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Feuillade wrote:
> zaryzary2003.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:

> Do I have arguments? Yes.
>
> Am I willing to spend the time to make them and then the much longer
> time to defend them? Not particularly. I might have made that
> argument a few years ago, but not now.
>
> Mainly because, as you say, there's no accounting for taste.

Well, I haven't seen "Avalon" so I don't know whether it's the best
movie of the last 20 years, but at least you give a fair answer to my
question.
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(Msg. 82) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:25 pm
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zaryzary2003 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:

> Feuillade wrote:

>> zaryzary2003 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:

>> Do I have arguments? Yes.

>> Am I willing to spend the time to make them
>> and then the much longer time to defend them?
>> Not particularly. I might have made that
>> argument a few years ago, but not now.

>> Mainly because, as you say, there's no
>> accounting for taste.

> Well, I haven't seen "Avalon" so I don't know
> whether it's the best movie of the last 20 years,
> but at least you give a fair answer to my question.

I'm glad I've pleased *somebody" in this thread.

And I hope that one of these days you'll go out and rent "Avalon."

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(Msg. 83) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:51 pm
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John Harkness 10/24/05 1:27 PM

> So will Can't Stop The Music and Xanadu and Plan 9 From Outer Space.

Hey! Plan 9 is better than most "good" movies.

JN
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(Msg. 84) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:51 pm
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 21:51:13 GMT, James Neibaur <jneibaur.DeleteThis@wi.rr.com>
wrote:

>John Harkness 10/24/05 1:27 PM
>
>> So will Can't Stop The Music and Xanadu and Plan 9 From Outer Space.
>
>Hey! Plan 9 is better than most "good" movies.
>
>JN

I'd rather watch Plan 9 than Avalon.

John Harkness
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(Msg. 85) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:07 pm
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> And I hope that one of these days you'll go out and rent "Avalon."
>
> Tom Moran

Frankly, I think "Tin Men" is Barry Levinson's best film; even better than
"Diner" and his appearance in "High Anxiety." I don't know what the rest of
you think of it, if you even saw it, but I think "Tin Men" is one of the
best comedies of, well, let's say the last 40 years. I can certainly
imagine people not liking it though, because there are plenty of people who
just don't like Richard Dreyfuss and Danny DeVito.
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(Msg. 86) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:45 pm
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John Harkness 10/24/05 4:55 PM

> I'd rather watch Plan 9 than Avalon.

Really? I kind of get a kick out of those beach blanket movies.



huh?


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(Msg. 87) Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:45 pm
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:45:29 GMT, James Neibaur <jneibaur RemoveThis @wi.rr.com>
wrote:

>John Harkness 10/24/05 4:55 PM
>
>> I'd rather watch Plan 9 than Avalon.
>
>Really? I kind of get a kick out of those beach blanket movies.
>
>

Then you want Bride of the Monster, at least for the finale.

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(Msg. 88) Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:21 am
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John Harkness 10/24/05 5:49 PM

> Then you want Bride of the Monster, at least for the finale.

Hey, the rubber octopus is a classic

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(Msg. 89) Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:55 pm
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In article <1130177797.762992.21220 DeleteThis @g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Feuillade <Feuillade DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>John Harkness wrote:
>
>> On 24 Oct 2005 08:45:28 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> John Harkness wrote:
>
>>>> On 24 Oct 2005 05:14:49 -0700, "Feuillade" <Feuillade DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> John Harkness wrote:
>
>>>>>> Avalon has more old ethnic guys bitching about
>>>>>> how things were better in the old country.
>
>>>>> If that's all you saw in that movie I find that
>>>>> deeply sad.
>
>>>> On the grand scale, that's basically what it's about.
>>>> He's trying to excorcise his family but sinks into
>>>> nostalgia.
>
>>> That's a little like saying that "Citizen Kane" is
>>> about a guy who never got over losing his sled.
>
>> That's exactly what Citizen Kane's about.
>
>Your arguments just get sadder and sadder...

Sadder Budweiser



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(Msg. 90) Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:54 am
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In the words of Professor Harold Hill, "The sadder Budweiser girl for me!"

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Yours for bigger and better silents,
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"Bill Vermillion" <bv DeleteThis @wjv.com> wrote in message news:Iozots.5sK@wjv.com...
> >Your arguments just get sadder and sadder...
>
> Sadder Budweiser
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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