iPower 520 Pro

<richard DeleteThis @ipowerus.com> wrote in message
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>
> iPower is releasing a new Pro version Lithium Polymer 9 volt battery.
> Based on returned product analysis, feedback and participation from
> users, dealers and manufacturers, the iPower engineers have designed
> the DC-9V-520 Pro.
>
> The biggest difference is that the 520 Pro consists of the best
> possible grade of Lithium and certain raw materials, and the cells are
> precision balanced. This also give a higher capacity, so the cells
> don't work as hard, discharge less and should yield better. The
> existing DC-9V500 will range in actual capacity from 470mAh to 510mAh.
> The DC-9V520 batteries will yield 510 to 550 mAhs. Over all it equates
> to around a 10% increase in capacity in the 520 Pro, over the 500.
> Also the 520 will shut off closer to 6 volts than the 500.
> Tests have shown that the known problems have been overcome, but we
> need "real world" comfirmation, thanks Larry.
>
> This is a special order, battery, targeted at professional
> applications. The iPower 520 Pro will be available at participating
> Pro Audio dealers, in limited supply.
>
> We have an iPower Pro info site starting up, www.ipoweruspro.com. It
> is still under construction, but there is some useful info there,
> hopefully.
>
> My hat is off to the iPower crew, and Larry Fisher at Lectrosonics,
> Michael Petterson at Shure and Ralph Belgique at Comtek, have been
> awesome.
>
> Special thanks to the Rampers for hangin' in.
>
> Richard Lintlop
> richard DeleteThis @ipowerus.com

Richard, will Thomas Distributing be carrying these batteries? Also...any
progress on a PRO charger?

Thanks!
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On Mar 16, 10:01 pm, Whitney Ince <whitneyi... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 9:37 pm, "rich...@ipowerus.com" <rich... DeleteThis @ipowerus.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > iPower is releasing a new Pro version Lithium Polymer 9 volt battery.
> > Based on returned product analysis, feedback and participation from
> > users, dealers and manufacturers, the iPower engineers have designed
> > the DC-9V-520 Pro.
>
> > The biggest difference is that the 520 Pro consists of the best
> > possible grade of Lithium and certain raw materials, and the cells are
> > precision balanced. This also give a higher capacity, so the cells
> > don't work as hard, discharge less and should yield better.  The
> > existing DC-9V500 will range in actual capacity from 470mAh to 510mAh.
> > The DC-9V520 batteries will yield 510 to 550 mAhs. Over all it equates
> > to around a 10% increase in capacity in the 520 Pro, over the 500.
> > Also the 520 will shut off closer to 6 volts than the 500.
> > Tests have shown that the known problems have been overcome, but  we
> > need "real world" comfirmation, thanks Larry.
>
> > This is a special order, battery, targeted at professional
> > applications. The iPower 520 Pro will be available at participating
> > Pro Audio dealers, in limited supply.
>
> > We have an iPower Pro info site starting up,www.ipoweruspro.com. It
> > is still under construction, but there is some useful info there,
> > hopefully.
>
> > My hat is off to the iPower crew, and Larry Fisher at Lectrosonics,
> > Michael Petterson at Shure and Ralph Belgique at Comtek, have been
> > awesome.
>
> > Special thanks to the Rampers for hangin' in.
>
> > Richard Lintlop
> > rich... DeleteThis @ipowerus.com
>
> Sound Great Richard! What is the price per battery?- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

The MSRP is $21.99 US. for the 520 Pro and $18.99 for the 500.
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On Mar 16, 10:05 pm, "Charles Tomaras" <toma... RemoveThis @tomaras.com> wrote:
> <rich... RemoveThis @ipowerus.com> wrote in message
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> news:20330642-fa99-481e-ad3b-616511c0b014@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > iPower is releasing a new Pro version Lithium Polymer 9 volt battery.
> > Based on returned product analysis, feedback and participation from
> > users, dealers and manufacturers, the iPower engineers have designed
> > the DC-9V-520 Pro.
>
> > The biggest difference is that the 520 Pro consists of the best
> > possible grade of Lithium and certain raw materials, and the cells are
> > precision balanced. This also give a higher capacity, so the cells
> > don't work as hard, discharge less and should yield better.  The
> > existing DC-9V500 will range in actual capacity from 470mAh to 510mAh.
> > The DC-9V520 batteries will yield 510 to 550 mAhs. Over all it equates
> > to around a 10% increase in capacity in the 520 Pro, over the 500.
> > Also the 520 will shut off closer to 6 volts than the 500.
> > Tests have shown that the known problems have been overcome, but  we
> > need "real world" comfirmation, thanks Larry.
>
> > This is a special order, battery, targeted at professional
> > applications. The iPower 520 Pro will be available at participating
> > Pro Audio dealers, in limited supply.
>
> > We have an iPower Pro info site starting up,www.ipoweruspro.com. It
> > is still under construction, but there is some useful info there,
> > hopefully.
>
> > My hat is off to the iPower crew, and Larry Fisher at Lectrosonics,
> > Michael Petterson at Shure and Ralph Belgique at Comtek, have been
> > awesome.
>
> > Special thanks to the Rampers for hangin' in.
>
> > Richard Lintlop
> > rich... RemoveThis @ipowerus.com
>
> Richard, will Thomas Distributing be carrying these batteries? Also...any
> progress on a PRO charger?
>
> batteryThanks!- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I think only the hardcore location dealers will have a market for the
pro battery. I have had many discussions about the charger.
The question is what would we do to make it more pro?
Also the Pro market is much smaller than consumer markets,
We would have to sell thousands to make it worth while,
and we aren't there yet, sorry.
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<richard.RemoveThis@ipowerus.com> wrote in message
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Also...any
> progress on a PRO charger?
>
> batteryThanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

> I have had many discussions about the charger.
>The question is what would we do to make it more pro?

I'd like to see a charger that has the ability to do analysis and tell me
how much actual life or percentage of rated capacity I have left in my
battery as it ages so I can repurpose less capable batteries to non-critical
applications were a premature failure would not cause the loss of a shot.
There are certainly a number of AA nmhd chargers out there which do so.
There must be a market for those? As it stands now, trying to keep track of
a couple of dozen batteries purchased 6 or 8 at a time over a period of a
year or two is impossible and I'm certain the end result and current
analysis tool is an untimely failure in a critical device.
 >> Stay informed about: iPower 520 Pro 

Richard, these are great news!

Something I like a lot from current charger is that it's small and
light.
Not rugged, true, but it's so light that is less prone to impact
damage.


Will the new batteries charge without problems in existing chargers?

Fernando
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On Mar 17, 8:48 am, Fernando <f... DeleteThis @ran.es> wrote:
> Richard, these are great news!
>
> Something I like a lot from current charger is that it's small and
> light.
> Not rugged, true, but it's so light that is less prone to impact
> damage.
>
> Will the new batteries charge without problems in existing chargers?
>
> Fernando

Hi Fernando,

Thanks for your message. The batteries and charger were originaly
designed for toys and hobbies, mostly R/C.
Cost was the biggest design concern. As the pro market grows, the
possibilities open up.
Charles' suggestion of a capacity tester built in is probably the most
significant electronic feature we could do, but that would be a
whole new product design. Our attention has been with the batteries,
and although we are eliminating battery issues,
our concern is still very much about the battery performance.

Yes sir, same charger for the 520 Pro.

Richard
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As a professional, I would be willing to pay more for a pro-charger.
The current charger is so damned inexpensive to begin with, I'd pay
double for a pro version :)

-JP

On Mar 17, 3:44 pm, "rich...@ipowerus.com" <rich... RemoveThis @ipowerus.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 17, 8:48 am, Fernando <f... RemoveThis @ran.es> wrote:
>
> > Richard, these are great news!
>
> > Something I like a lot from current charger is that it's small and
> > light.
> > Not rugged, true, but it's so light that is less prone to impact
> > damage.
>
> > Will the new batteries charge without problems in existing chargers?
>
> > Fernando
>
> Hi Fernando,
>
> Thanks for your message. The batteries and charger were originaly
> designed for toys and hobbies, mostly R/C.
> Cost was the biggest design concern. As the pro market grows, the
> possibilities open up.
> Charles' suggestion of a capacity tester built in is probably the most
> significant electronic feature we could do, but that would be a
> whole new product design. Our attention has been with the batteries,
> and although we are eliminating battery issues,
> our concern is still very much about the battery performance.
>
> Yes sir, same charger for the 520 Pro.
>
> Richard
 >> Stay informed about: iPower 520 Pro 

On Mar 16, 11:35 pm, "Charles Tomaras" <toma....TakeThisOut@tomaras.com> wrote:
> <rich....TakeThisOut@ipowerus.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7e37196c-080b-4f55-bc24-0126f1b3b7c4@v3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>  Also...any
>
> > progress on a PRO charger?
>
> >  batteryThanks!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
> > I have had many discussions about the charger.
> >The question is what would we do to make it more  pro?
>
> I'd like to see a charger that has the ability to do analysis and tell me
> how much actual life or percentage of rated capacity I have left in my
> battery as it ages so I can repurpose less capable batteries to non-critical
> applications were a premature failure would not cause the loss of a shot.
> There are certainly a number of AA nmhd chargers out there which do so.
> There must be a market for those? As it stands now, trying to keep track of
> a couple of dozen batteries purchased 6 or 8 at a time over a period of a
> year or two is impossible and I'm certain the end result and current
> analysis tool is an untimely failure in a critical device.

Hi Charles,

The AA market is much bigger than the shrinking 9 volt market. Even
iPower has a AA/AAA capacity tester.
Many manufactures have changed over to AA, as new electronic devices
could run on the lower voltages,.NMH rechargeable 9 volts helped speed
that up.

To help in managing your batteries, the 520 has a "first use" tag on
the batteries. Not ideal, but at least you will know at a glance how
long they have been in service. Broadcast facilities are discarding
their batteries after around 200 charges (500 series), which is
averaging out to 3 to 5 months of daily and multiple daily chargers.
It is easier for them because their run times are idendical each day.
My concern would be that the extra benefit of using the older
batteries would be outweighed by the potential problems. Hopefully
the 520 will fade more gracefully.

I believe in a couple of months there will be a third party tester
with an iPower setting on the market.

Thanks for the insight Charles,
Richard
 >> Stay informed about: iPower 520 Pro 

Yeah, I can see paying $100-$150 for a battery charger that has
professional features. It would be a small price to pay for a bit of
extra security in critical use situations as well as better build
quality and even a larger pallet (for charging more batts at once!)

-JP

" The current charger is so damned inexpensive to begin with, I'd pay
double for a pro version :) "
have you seen the "professional" prices on professional chargers, like
A-B, Freezi, IDX, etc.
have you read what Richard was saying?? do you understand how business
and manufacturing work??
you may have to pay triple!!

but seriously, how about $349.98 ?? :) !!
Senator Mike O'Michaels, c.a.s.
Studio M Productions
Senator DeleteThis @Sound4Film-TV.com
Sound for Film, Video, Radio, TV and PA


On Mar 17, 3:53 pm, Jason Porter <sound.mi... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> As a professional, I would be willing to pay more for a pro-charger.
> The current charger is so damned inexpensive to begin with, I'd pay
> double for a pro version :)
>
> -JP
>
> On Mar 17, 3:44 pm, "rich...@ipowerus.com" <rich... DeleteThis @ipowerus.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 17, 8:48 am, Fernando <f... DeleteThis @ran.es> wrote:
>
> > > Richard, these are great news!
>
> > > Something I like a lot from current charger is that it's small and
> > > light.
> > > Not rugged, true, but it's so light that is less prone to impact
> > > damage.
>
> > > Will the new batteries charge without problems in existing chargers?
>
> > > Fernando
>
> > Hi Fernando,
>
> > Thanks for your message. The batteries and charger were originaly
> > designed for toys and hobbies, mostly R/C.
> > Cost was the biggest design concern. As the pro market grows, the
> > possibilities open up.
> > Charles' suggestion of a capacity tester built in is probably the most
> > significant electronic feature we could do, but that would be a
> > whole new product design. Our attention has been with the batteries,
> > and although we are eliminating battery issues,
> > our concern is still very much about the battery performance.
>
> > Yes sir, same charger for the 520 Pro.
>
> > Richard
 >> Stay informed about: iPower 520 Pro 

On Mar 17, 5:14 pm, Jason Porter <sound.mi... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I can see paying $100-$150 for a battery charger that has
> professional features. It would be a small price to pay for a bit of
> extra security in critical use situations as well as better build
> quality and even a larger pallet (for charging more batts at once!)
>
> -JP
>
> " The current charger is so damned inexpensive to begin with, I'd pay
> double for a pro version :) "
> have you seen the "professional" prices on professional chargers, like
> A-B, Freezi, IDX, etc.
> have you read what Richard was saying?? do you understand how business
> and manufacturing work??
> you may have to pay triple!!
>
> but seriously, how about $349.98 ?? :) !!
> Senator Mike O'Michaels, c.a.s.
> Studio M Productions
> Sena... DeleteThis @Sound4Film-TV.com
> Sound for Film, Video, Radio, TV and PA
>
> On Mar 17, 3:53 pm, Jason Porter <sound.mi... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As a professional, I would be willing to pay more for a pro-charger.
> > The current charger is so damned inexpensive to begin with, I'd pay
> > double for a pro version :)
>
> > -JP
>
> > On Mar 17, 3:44 pm, "rich...@ipowerus.com" <rich... DeleteThis @ipowerus.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 17, 8:48 am, Fernando <f... DeleteThis @ran.es> wrote:
>
> > > > Richard, these are great news!
>
> > > > Something I like a lot from current charger is that it's small and
> > > > light.
> > > > Not rugged, true, but it's so light that is less prone to impact
> > > > damage.
>
> > > > Will the new batteries charge without problems in existing chargers?
>
> > > > Fernando
>
> > > Hi Fernando,
>
> > > Thanks for your message. The batteries and charger were originaly
> > > designed for toys and hobbies, mostly R/C.
> > > Cost was the biggest design concern. As the pro market grows, the
> > > possibilities open up.
> > > Charles' suggestion of a capacity tester built in is probably the most
> > > significant electronic feature we could do, but that would be a
> > > whole new product design. Our attention has been with the batteries,
> > > and although we are eliminating battery issues,
> > > our concern is still very much about the battery performance.
>
> > > Yes sir, same charger for the 520 Pro.
>
> > > Richard

I agree with jason 100 percent I would pay $150-$200.00 for a 6 bay
pro charger
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Goodluck! Apparently, it can't be done and be priced reasonably.

-JP

On Mar 19, 10:29 am, Whitney Ince <whitneyi....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 17, 5:14 pm, Jason Porter <sound.mi....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah, I can see paying $100-$150 for a battery charger that has
> > professional features. It would be a small price to pay for a bit of
> > extra security in critical use situations as well as better build
> > quality and even a larger pallet (for charging more batts at once!)
>
> > -JP
>
> > " The current charger is so damned inexpensive to begin with, I'd pay
> > double for a pro version :) "
> > have you seen the "professional" prices on professional chargers, like
> > A-B, Freezi, IDX, etc.
> > have you read what Richard was saying?? do you understand how business
> > and manufacturing work??
> > you may have to pay triple!!
>
> > but seriously, how about $349.98 ?? :) !!
> > Senator Mike O'Michaels, c.a.s.
> > Studio M Productions
> > Sena....RemoveThis@Sound4Film-TV.com
> > Sound for Film, Video, Radio, TV and PA
>
> > On Mar 17, 3:53 pm, Jason Porter <sound.mi....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > As a professional, I would be willing to pay more for a pro-charger.
> > > The current charger is so damned inexpensive to begin with, I'd pay
> > > double for a pro version :)
>
> > > -JP
>
> > > On Mar 17, 3:44 pm, "rich...@ipowerus.com" <rich....RemoveThis@ipowerus.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 17, 8:48 am, Fernando <f....RemoveThis@ran.es> wrote:
>
> > > > > Richard, these are great news!
>
> > > > > Something I like a lot from current charger is that it's small and
> > > > > light.
> > > > > Not rugged, true, but it's so light that is less prone to impact
> > > > > damage.
>
> > > > > Will the new batteries charge without problems in existing chargers?
>
> > > > > Fernando
>
> > > > Hi Fernando,
>
> > > > Thanks for your message. The batteries and charger were originaly
> > > > designed for toys and hobbies, mostly R/C.
> > > > Cost was the biggest design concern. As the pro market grows, the
> > > > possibilities open up.
> > > > Charles' suggestion of a capacity tester built in is probably the most
> > > > significant electronic feature we could do, but that would be a
> > > > whole new product design. Our attention has been with the batteries,
> > > > and although we are eliminating battery issues,
> > > > our concern is still very much about the battery performance.
>
> > > > Yes sir, same charger for the 520 Pro.
>
> > > > Richard
>
> I agree with jason 100 percent I would pay $150-$200.00 for a 6 bay
> pro charger
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When are they going to be available for order?

-Chris
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On Mar 19, 2:38 pm, atlsoundguy <cmdu....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> When are they going to be available for order?
>
> -Chris

The Pro batteries can be found at Trew, Location and Coffey.
When I first presented iPower with the idea of a Pro battery, it did
not seem to have a lot of merit, due to cost and market conditions. It
may be that the Pro battery is paving the way for a Pro charger.
However, if ZTS puts an iPower setting on their $35.00 tester, there
may be no need for an iPower test circuit.
The NMH capacity testers on the market take a long time to charge and
drain the batteries to get the capacity.
Are rampers using these testers? From talking to ZTS, the iPower
batteries should be quick to test, as they will test against the known
curve of the batteries, rather than depleting the battery.

Of interest may be the Nexxtech $12.00 tester @ radio Shack/TheSoure.
model#2210100. You can search by that on their site.
This cheap tester seems to offer enough of a load to get an accurate
digital voltage reading, and it even gives a warning beep for low
voltage.
I am suprised that it works so well, and some broadcast professionals
are using it to do a quick check before they load the batteries into
the 48 Lectrosonic devices they run. I use it all the time now. It
does AA/AAA also, and both disposable and rechargeable.
Factory says batteries reading from 8 to 8.4 is ok. Most batteries are
8.2. Batteries with a problem usually read 7.2 to 7.9, after full
charge. Some batteries will read 7.9 at full charge and be good, but
at 10 cents a charge, why take a chance. New batteries out of the box
should read 7.9 before charge, as they are shipped with 75% charge
capacity.

Final note, I am getting a lot of questions from dealers about how
long the batteries should last. Many users are coming in after 6
months with failed batteries. The warranty is 3 months. The batteries
should give around 200 charges. Proffesional daily use seems to
average out at 200 charges in 3 to 6 months. I know, very general.
Most defective batteries fail soon after purchase. Not one pro dealer
has had a customer try to get free batteries.
If you buy your batteries and don't use them right away, charge them
up and store them, then charge before use.
If you use them a few months after purchase and have a problem, please
let me know. We will work it out.
Although they can sit on the shevle for a long time fresh is best.
Thanks to any one still awake.

Richard
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