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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:35 am
Post subject: The meaning of final images of NIght of the Living Dead?
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The images of 'redneck' type of people piling up dead zombies remind
me of Holocaust footage(and I think that was partly intended in AI
which paid homage to Night of the Living Dead: mecha as the new Jew).
Now, why did Romero make these images so disturbing? Isn't it a good
thing that flesheating zombies have been killed and are being burned?
Or, is it a sly commentary on genocide? But, what is one to do with
flesheating zombies but kill them? It's not genocide but simple
defense.
Or, was Romero saying that zombies are not evil but simply amoral like
animals. They operate by pure instinct, and it's humans who are
villains for separating themselves from the basic fact of nature which
is all lifeforms eat and are eaten. And, so what the zombies are
merely doing is bringing us back to the natural cycle, like the
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:59 pm
Post subject: Re: The meaning of final images of NIght of the Living Dead? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:04 pm
Post subject: Re: The meaning of final images of NIght of the Living Dead? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"volkischlemiel" <volkischlemiel.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The images of 'redneck' type of people piling up dead zombies remind
> me of Holocaust footage(and I think that was partly intended in AI
> which paid homage to Night of the Living Dead: mecha as the new Jew).
>
> Now, why did Romero make these images so disturbing? Isn't it a good
> thing that flesheating zombies have been killed and are being burned?
>
> Or, is it a sly commentary on genocide? But, what is one to do with
> flesheating zombies but kill them? It's not genocide but simple
> defense.
>
> Or, was Romero saying that zombies are not evil but simply amoral like
> animals. They operate by pure instinct, and it's humans who are
> villains for separating themselves from the basic fact of nature which
> is all lifeforms eat and are eaten. And, so what the zombies are
> merely doing is bringing us back to the natural cycle, like the
> insects, rabbits, toads, etc.
you realy are off your tits aint ya?!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 9:24 pm
Post subject: Re: The meaning of final images of NIght of the Living Dead? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Cernovog <cernovog RemoveThis @mail.com> wrote in
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> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:38:34 -0500, eerie rodent of unusual size &
> typing ability wrote
> (in message <Xns947157E8DDD14freakingA RemoveThis @68.6.19.6>):
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>> It's just a more effective ending when all the major characters die.
>> Otherwise you could just make Jason versus Freddy versus Alien vs
>> Serial Mom CCXXXX, and continually use the hackneyed gimmick that at
>> least one character must survive for the sequel.
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> Actually, I heard they were going to bring the black guy back as a
> clone to fight the zombies in Resident Evil 4.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:53 am
Post subject: Re: The meaning of final images of NIght of the Living Dead? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> The images of 'redneck' type of people piling up dead zombies remind
> me of Holocaust footage(and I think that was partly intended in AI
> which paid homage to Night of the Living Dead: mecha as the new Jew).
>
> Now, why did Romero make these images so disturbing? Isn't it a good
> thing that flesheating zombies have been killed and are being burned?
>
> Or, is it a sly commentary on genocide? But, what is one to do with
> flesheating zombies but kill them? It's not genocide but simple
> defense.
>
> Or, was Romero saying that zombies are not evil but simply amoral like
> animals. They operate by pure instinct, and it's humans who are
> villains for separating themselves from the basic fact of nature which
> is all lifeforms eat and are eaten. And, so what the zombies are
> merely doing is bringing us back to the natural cycle, like the
> insects, rabbits, toads, etc.
Good point. I think Romero actually proves this point further in his
remake of NoLD. There, before the heroine's eyes (now a female Rambo
instead of the dazed and confused damsel) the human mob are actually
taking delight in hurting the zombies, stringing them up, watching
them fight each other (as if it was a wrestling match). This causes
the heroine to realize that her race has become no different from the
living dead.
A.Gerard >> Stay informed about: The meaning of final images of NIght of the Living Dead? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:22 pm
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anmcco43.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (A. Gerard) wrote in message news:<218787c5.0401160653.7a29bd7.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>...
> > The images of 'redneck' type of people piling up dead zombies remind
> > me of Holocaust footage(and I think that was partly intended in AI
> > which paid homage to Night of the Living Dead: mecha as the new Jew).
> >
> > Now, why did Romero make these images so disturbing? Isn't it a good
> > thing that flesheating zombies have been killed and are being burned?
> >
> > Or, is it a sly commentary on genocide? But, what is one to do with
> > flesheating zombies but kill them? It's not genocide but simple
> > defense.
> >
> > Or, was Romero saying that zombies are not evil but simply amoral like
> > animals. They operate by pure instinct, and it's humans who are
> > villains for separating themselves from the basic fact of nature which
> > is all lifeforms eat and are eaten. And, so what the zombies are
> > merely doing is bringing us back to the natural cycle, like the
> > insects, rabbits, toads, etc.
>
> Good point. I think Romero actually proves this point further in his
> remake of NoLD. There, before the heroine's eyes (now a female Rambo
> instead of the dazed and confused damsel) the human mob are actually
> taking delight in hurting the zombies, stringing them up, watching
> them fight each other (as if it was a wrestling match). This causes
> the heroine to realize that her race has become no different from the
> living dead.
>
Actually humans would be worse. Because zombies are amoral whereas
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:41 pm
Post subject: Re: Discussion of horror films that aren't discussed. (was: The meaning [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Avoid normal situations. wrote:
> In alt.horror paghat <paghat.DeleteThis@netscapespam-me-not.net> wrote:
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>> "volkischlemiel" <volkischlemiel.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>As an aside, it's odd to me that there are maybe ten horror movies that
>>induce long usenet discussions (alternatingly inane or intelligent) & it
>>makes me wonder if film fans on usenet don't actually see very many horror
>>films so have to discuss the tiny handful they can remember. I don't
>>really think Evil Dead & Texas Chainsaw & Night of the Living are such
>>amazing highwater marks as to require rehashing the same two critical
>>ideas again & again to the exclusion of all films made since. I'm a great
>>Romero fan of course, & have my handful of old-hat opinions too, but
>>there's so much else of merit few seem to have seen, or so rarely discuss.
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> I feel your pain. You should have seen rec.arts.sf.movies ten years ago (or
> perhaps you did). Alien... Blade Runner... Highlander... Alien... Blade
> Runner... Highlander... Alien... Blade Runner... Highlander. I tried to
> start a discussion there back then about _The Man They Could Not Hang_, which
> was met by deafening silence.
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