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Eddie

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 8:56 pm
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I got my hands on a 8 mm sharp video camera recently. What I want to
know is can this format be used to be entered in film festivals or any
type of independent filmmaking? I also have a vhs-c camcorder. Can I
used this for any kind of filmmaking?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:34 am
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Yes, everything is possible and you can do whatever you want with
whatever you got. If you caught Elvis fighting in Iraq or Hitler
feeding the poor this (2005) x-mas on a pin-hole camera would anyone
care how much you paid for your camera and whats the vertical
resolution?

The idea is to get something that makes the work flow and the life of
you, as the do it all film-maker, easier.

To everyone one, I would suggest:

1) Get a used DV camera
2) Get a used Apple iBook with DVD burner
3) Get a used FireWire cable.

TOTAL: Under $1,000.
(Its not that much $: If you are a smoker, give up... if not, atleast
for a while and/or catch a bus for a month. Insurence, gas, etc. can
cost well over that. Oh... sell all that junk.) Get a seond job: If you
dont have time, lose some sleep to flip burgers you can make that money
in no time to realize your potential.

Above list is all you need to write, storyboard, budget, shoot, edit,
burn, upload, etc. Just add creativiity and you can do wonders. This
may be the best $$ you have spent, the wisest thing you have done in
your whole life: If you have a story to tell with moving pictures and
if you are not good at pencil sketch animation.

Goodluck and all the best.
Jay Bala.
Jay.RemoveThis@hitpix.net

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Joe Kotroczo

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:14 pm
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On 01/01/06 08:29, in article
1136100583.077134.71320.DeleteThis@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com,
"davidm2@earthlink.net" <davidm2.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

(...)
> Anytime you veer away from the technical benchmark for feature films,
> which is 35mm, you're either trying to fool people but save money by
> shooting some format near 35mm in quality (let's say Super-16 or HD),

Is it just me, or do people often actually fool themselves into thinking
that S-16 or HD is going to be cheaper?

We did the math on the "3-perf or 4-perf" question a couple of weeks ago,
and found that in this particular case, the cost was exactly the same, even
factoring in the savings on stock. Surprised a whole lot of people. :-)


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A New Dawn

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:01 am
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Joe Kotroczo wrote:
> We did the math on the "3-perf or 4-perf" question a couple of weeks ago,
> and found that in this particular case, the cost was exactly the same, even
> factoring in the savings on stock. Surprised a whole lot of people. :-)
>
>
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Bring back 2-perf Techniscope I say!!!!!

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:29 am
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Joe Kotroczo wrote:
> On 02/01/06 10:01, in article
> 1136192462.002310.274570.DeleteThis@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "A New Dawn"
> <anewdawn.DeleteThis@6url.com> wrote:
>
> >> We did the math on the "3-perf or 4-perf" question a couple of weeks ago,
> >> and found that in this particular case, the cost was exactly the same, even
> >> factoring in the savings on stock. Surprised a whole lot of people. :-)
>
> > Bring back 2-perf Techniscope I say!!!!!
>
> Well, that's not gonna help, if you're shooting 1:1,66 as in this case...
>
>
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> Joe Kotroczo kotroczo.DeleteThis@mac.com

Who wants to shoot 1.66 when you can shoot 2.35 for 1/4 the cost, at
least 1/4 the cost in filmstock and developing.

I really don't know why this format never caught on... It lets you use
superior spherical lenses and gives you the perfect 2.35 format.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:34 am
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> And anyway, the decision to shoot 1:1,66 on this one was purely artistic.

Okay, cool...

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:12 pm
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On 02/01/06 10:01, in article
1136192462.002310.274570 RemoveThis @g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "A New Dawn"
<anewdawn RemoveThis @6url.com> wrote:

>> We did the math on the "3-perf or 4-perf" question a couple of weeks ago,
>> and found that in this particular case, the cost was exactly the same, even
>> factoring in the savings on stock. Surprised a whole lot of people. :-)

> Bring back 2-perf Techniscope I say!!!!!

Well, that's not gonna help, if you're shooting 1:1,66 as in this case...


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:19 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:26 pm
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On 02/01/06 17:29, in article
1136219386.747189.162810.TakeThisOut@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "A New Dawn"
<anewdawn.TakeThisOut@6url.com> wrote:


>> Well, that's not gonna help, if you're shooting 1:1,66 as in this case...
>
> Who wants to shoot 1.66 when you can shoot 2.35 for 1/4 the cost, at
> least 1/4 the cost in filmstock and developing.
>
> I really don't know why this format never caught on... It lets you use
> superior spherical lenses and gives you the perfect 2.35 format.

The conventional wisdom is:
- Because it uses less film it is grainier.
- It is difficult to find cameras and telecine facilities for 2-perf.
- The very small frame line means that any imperfections, such as hairs in
the gate, or lens flares, will be very visible.

And anyway, the decision to shoot 1:1,66 on this one was purely artistic.


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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:34 pm
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On 02/01/06 18:26, in article BFDF20C5.10A02%kotroczo@mac.com, "Joe
Kotroczo" <kotroczo DeleteThis @mac.com> wrote:


>> Who wants to shoot 1.66 when you can shoot 2.35 for 1/4 the cost, at
>> least 1/4 the cost in filmstock and developing.
>>
>> I really don't know why this format never caught on... It lets you use
>> superior spherical lenses and gives you the perfect 2.35 format.
>
> The conventional wisdom is:
> - Because it uses less film it is grainier.
> - It is difficult to find cameras and telecine facilities for 2-perf.
> - The very small frame line means that any imperfections, such as hairs in
> the gate, or lens flares, will be very visible.

Having said that, apparently the new Aaton Penelope camera will be capable
of 2-perf... Should be available commercially at some point in 2006... Let's
wait and see.


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