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gonif_mamzer

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 6:23 pm
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paisan

l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)

breathless (some dorkass publisher)

rhapsody in august (richard gere)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:45 am
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> paisan
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> l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)
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> breathless (some dorkass publisher)
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> rhapsody in august (richard gere)
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THE AMERICAN FRIEND

STROSZEK

ALPHAVILLE (and all the Lemmy Cautions, no?)

All those mind-boggling Karl May Westerns

Jim Beaver

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:45 am
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On Oct 4, 1:50 am, "Jim Beaver" wrote:
> wrote in message
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> > paisan
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> > l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)
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> > breathless (some dorkass publisher)
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> > rhapsody in august (richard gere)
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> THE AMERICAN FRIEND
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> STROSZEK
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> ALPHAVILLE (and all the Lemmy Cautions, no?)
>
> All those mind-boggling Karl May Westerns
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> Jim Beaver

Killing Zoe with Eric Stoltz.

Pjk
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Dave in Toronto

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:32 am
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> ALPHAVILLE (and all the Lemmy Cautions, no?)

Jim Beaver

I guess the Lemmy Cautions were notable after a fashion. Based on a
character created by a British thriller writer (Peter Cheyney) who had
a very quaint idea of how American's talked and reacted. French
gangsters loved the translations of the novels and started to drink
"whiskey and soda" in emulation. The movies were very popular in
continental Europe not so much in the UK or America except as
curiosity pieces.

Dave in Toronto


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> All those mind-boggling Karl May Westerns
>
> Jim Beaver

Mind-boggling is right. Good chance to see faded Hollywood stars
like- Lex Barker
Rod Cameron - Guy Madison -Stewart Granger.

Dave in Toronto
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:00 am
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On Oct 3, 9:23 pm, wrote:
> paisan
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> l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)
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> breathless (some dorkass publisher)
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> rhapsody in august (richard gere)

The New Land which is about Swedish immigrants to the US (A sequel to
the Emigrants which I have not seen)
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Sean O'Hara

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:45 am
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In the Year of the Golden Pig, the Great and Powerful
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> paisan
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> l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)
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> breathless (some dorkass publisher)
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> rhapsody in august (richard gere)
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Every Spaghetti Western

The Girl Who Knew Too Much

Tarkovsky's The Killers.

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Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
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Amy: Only weirdos and mutants join third parties.
Dr. Zoidberg: Really? I'd better keep an eye out at the next meeting.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:50 am
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On 4 Okt, 03:23, wrote:
> paisan
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> l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)
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> breathless (some dorkass publisher)
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> rhapsody in august (richard gere)

If you're American I suppose British films would be foreign even if
Britain is to all intents and purposes American:
Local Hero
Dr Strangelove
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Dave in Toronto

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:34 pm
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On Oct 4, 2:50 pm, unglued wrote:
> On 4 Okt, 03:23, wrote:
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> > paisan
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> > l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)
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> > breathless (some dorkass publisher)
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> > rhapsody in august (richard gere)
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> If you're American I suppose British films would be foreign even if
> Britain is to all intents and purposes American:
> Local Hero
> Dr Strangelove



I think in Hollywood Show Biz terms foreign means foreign language.

Dave in Toronto
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El Klauso

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:45 pm
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Howard Brazee

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:45 pm
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Do you have the Hollywood definition of "foreign", or the one
everybody else uses?

If it's the former, I might start off with spaghetti westerns.

If it's the latter, I might start off with _The Third Man_.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:45 am
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In article , Dave in Toronto wrote:

: I guess the Lemmy Cautions were notable after a fashion. Based on a
: character created by a British thriller writer (Peter Cheyney) who had
: a very quaint idea of how American's talked and reacted.

And how they formed plurals of nouns.

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Frank R.A.J. Maloney

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 9:25 am
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>> Here's a question. What non-English-language movies have non-English-
>> language actors playing Americans, and speaking a foreign language as
>> though it's English? You know, the way some Hollywood movies treat
>> foreign settings. For some reason, I can't think of any, and the
>> closest I can get is Brecht's plays about "Chicago."
>
> And five minutes after posting, I remember Wenders's film of _The
> Scarlet Letter_. Come to think of it, half of the movies Wenders ever
> made belong in some category in this thread.

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I admit I haven't been giving this thread my full attention so perhaps
I'm repeating something by nominating _Wings of Desire_ (1987) with
Peter Falk as "Der Filmstar".

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Dave in Toronto

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:49 am
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On Oct 5, 1:24 pm, "Jim Beaver" wrote:
> wrote in message
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> > Here's a question. What non-English-language movies have non-English-
> > language actors playing Americans, and speaking a foreign language as
> > though it's English? You know, the way some Hollywood movies treat
> > foreign settings. For some reason, I can't think of any, and the
> > closest I can get is Brecht's plays about "Chicago."
>
> Where's THREEPENNY OPERA set? From the title, I'm imagining London, but I'm
> not sure.

> Jim Beaver


Yes, it's set in London. Quite amazing that there has never been a
satisfactory movie version of it. The 1931 Pabst one with Lotte Lenya
should have dynamite but wasn't and I recall a dreary thing with Sammy
Davis Jr as the streetsinger.

Dave in Toronto
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:21 am
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On Oct 3, 9:23 pm, wrote:
> paisan
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> l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)
>
> breathless (some dorkass publisher)
>
> rhapsody in august (richard gere)

Any Hong Kong movie with Cynthia Rothrock:
YES, MADAM (although I think her character is British in this one)
RIGHTING WRONGS
BLONDE FURY
MILLIONAIRE'S EXPRESS (aka SHANGHAI EXPRESS) - she wears a Civil War
Uniform in it.

+ five Japanese monster/sci-fi movies off the top of my head:

MESSAGE FROM SPACE, with Vic Morrow
GODZILLA VS. MONSTER ZERO, with Nick Adams
FRANKENSTEIN CONQUERS THE WORLD, with Nick Adams
THE WAR OF THE GARGANTUAS, with Russ Tamblyn
LATITUDE ZERO, with Joseph Cotten, Richard Jaeckel, Linda Haynes

And, yes, these certainly count as "notable foreign films" in my
circles. :P
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:45 pm
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On Oct 5, 11:42 am, wrote:
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> > > l'avventura (some pompous tard in gallery)
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> Strange description of Jean Seberg...
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> > > rhapsody in august (richard gere)
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> How about:
>
> _Last Tango in Paris_ (Marlon Brando)
>
> _Wings of Desire_ (Peter Falk)
>
> _The Year of the Quiet Sun_ (Scott Wilson)
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> _Ulysses Gaze_ (Harvey Keitel)
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> _Contempt_ (Jack Palance)

Also _The Marriage of Maria Braun_ (Günther Kaufmann, who also played
an American soldier in Fassbinder's _Lola_. From his name, I assume
he's German, though his accent sounds American. Anybody know his
story? IMDB lists him as being born in Munich in 1947.)

Tom
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