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George Shelps

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:48 pm
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Noah, in John Huston's THE BIBLE.

Huston stated that he almost persuaded
CC to play the part he eventually
played himself.

I think it was one of Chaplin's greatest
career miscalculations. He might
have come back as s force in film
acting late in life.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:42 am
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Huston also has said he wanted Lee Marvin to play Noah as well.

I'm unsure why this would be a career miscalculation, it's not as if
The Bible was anything special as a motion picture. In fact the movie
is an utter waste of time.

If you're fantasizing about Chaplin appearing in a 60's Huston movie,
why not imagine him playing the character of Nonno in Night of the
Iguana? That's a much better movie and more interesting character
(with comedic potential) than Noah.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:39 pm
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On May 8, 8:53 pm, "Matt Barry" <bar... DeleteThis @bellatlantic.net> wrote:

> I actually bought Huston's "The Bible" on DVD recently [...]

Why on earth would you do that?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 7:19 pm
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ulysses.DeleteThis@mscomm.com (Candace)
wrote:

>Huston also has said he wanted Lee
>Marvin to play Noah as well.


>I'm unsure why this would be a career
>miscalculation, it's not as if The Bible
>was anything special as a motion
>picture. In fact the movie is an utter
>waste of time.

Not everyone felt that way...Pauline
Kael. for example.


>If you're fantasizing

Huston himself said he was disappointed
that Chaplin turned the offer down, so it's
a genuine "might-have-been,' not sheer
fantasy.

> about Chaplin
>appearing in a 60's Huston movie, why
>not imagine him playing the character of
>Nonno in Night of the Iguana? That's a
>much better movie and more interesting
>character (with comedic potential) than
Noah.

I think Noah is just a tad better known
role.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:40 pm
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On 8 May 2007 18:39:29 -0700, Feuillade <Feuillade RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:

>On May 8, 8:53 pm, "Matt Barry" <bar... RemoveThis @bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>
>> I actually bought Huston's "The Bible" on DVD recently [...]
>
>Why on earth would you do that?
>
>Tom Moran
>
Money to burn, Tom, money to burn.....;)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:53 am
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"George Shelps" <G-HELPS.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Noah, in John Huston's THE BIBLE.
>
> Huston stated that he almost persuaded
> CC to play the part he eventually
> played himself.
>
> I think it was one of Chaplin's greatest
> career miscalculations. He might
> have come back as s force in film
> acting late in life.

I find Chaplin's performances so delightful, no matter what the character,
that I wish he had done more acting later in life. Even his turn as the
steward in "A Countess From Hong Kong" is one of the funniest bits in the
film.

I actually bought Huston's "The Bible" on DVD recently but haven't gotten
around to watching it. I'll have to see the film first before knowing how
Chaplin could have fit into it.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:05 am
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On May 7, 9:48 pm, G-HE... RemoveThis @webtv.net (George Shelps) wrote:
> Noah, in John Huston's THE BIBLE.
>
> Huston stated that he almost persuaded
> CC to play the part he eventually
> played himself.
>
> I think it was one of Chaplin's greatest
> career miscalculations. He might
> have come back as s force in film
> acting late in life.


It's been a long time since I saw that movie, but I think I he would
have done a very nice job as Noah. But, would he go for being
directed by someone else after so many years?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:43 am
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Pauline Kael also thought Brando's movie The Chase was stellar, so her
opinion is frequently worthless. She trashed Kuhrick's Lolita as well,
inanely claiming James Mason was miscast.

Two huge egos like Huston and Chaplin would have clashed. Aside from
all that, The Bible is a bloated turkey.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:58 am
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On May 9, 2:40 am, Phil P. <p... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> On 8 May 2007 18:39:29 -0700, Feuillade <Feuill... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On May 8, 8:53 pm, "Matt Barry" <bar... DeleteThis @bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>
> >> I actually bought Huston's "The Bible" on DVD recently [...]
>
> >Why on earth would you do that?
>
> >Tom Moran
>
> Money to burn, Tom, money to burn.....;)

But that's what cocaine is for...

Tom Moran
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:44 pm
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On May 9, 11:05 am, "mlan...@yahoo.com" <mlan....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 7, 9:48 pm, G-HE....DeleteThis@webtv.net (George Shelps) wrote:
>
> > Noah, in John Huston's THE BIBLE.
>
> > Huston stated that he almost persuaded
> > CC to play the part he eventually
> > played himself.
>
> > I think it was one of Chaplin's greatest
> > career miscalculations. He might
> > have come back as s force in film
> > acting late in life.
>
> It's been a long time since I saw that movie, but I think I he would
> have done a very nice job as Noah. But, would he go for being
> directed by someone else after so many years?

Since he used to make fun of DeMille's biblical epics, why
would he want to act in one?

He toyed with the idea of playing Jesus, but I don't think he
had epic treatment in mind.

Connie K.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:22 pm
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On 9 May 2007 13:44:11 -0700, "constance.kuriyama@ttu.edu"
<constance.kuriyama.DeleteThis@ttu.edu> wrote:

>On May 9, 11:05 am, "mlan...@yahoo.com" <mlan....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On May 7, 9:48 pm, G-HE....DeleteThis@webtv.net (George Shelps) wrote:
>>
>> > Noah, in John Huston's THE BIBLE.
>>
>> > Huston stated that he almost persuaded
>> > CC to play the part he eventually
>> > played himself.
>>
>> > I think it was one of Chaplin's greatest
>> > career miscalculations. He might
>> > have come back as s force in film
>> > acting late in life.
>>
>> It's been a long time since I saw that movie, but I think I he would
>> have done a very nice job as Noah. But, would he go for being
>> directed by someone else after so many years?
>
>Since he used to make fun of DeMille's biblical epics, why
>would he want to act in one?
>
>He toyed with the idea of playing Jesus, but I don't think he
>had epic treatment in mind.
>
>Connie K.

Now that might get my vote for the best performance Chaplin never gave.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 3:46 pm
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On May 9, 9:43 am, Candace <ulys....RemoveThis@mscomm.com> wrote:
> Pauline Kael also thought Brando's movie The Chase was stellar, so her
> opinion is frequently worthless. She trashed Kuhrick's Lolita as well,
> inanely claiming James Mason was miscast.
>
> Two huge egos like Huston and Chaplin would have clashed. Aside from
> all that, The Bible is a bloated turkey.

The book or the film?
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:30 pm
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On May 9, 6:22 pm, Phil P. <p... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> On 9 May 2007 13:44:11 -0700, "constance.kuriy...@ttu.edu"
>
>
>
>
>
> <constance.kuriy... RemoveThis @ttu.edu> wrote:
> >On May 9, 11:05 am, "mlan...@yahoo.com" <mlan... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On May 7, 9:48 pm, G-HE... RemoveThis @webtv.net (George Shelps) wrote:
>
> >> > Noah, in John Huston's THE BIBLE.
>
> >> > Huston stated that he almost persuaded
> >> > CC to play the part he eventually
> >> > played himself.
>
> >> > I think it was one of Chaplin's greatest
> >> > career miscalculations. He might
> >> > have come back as s force in film
> >> > acting late in life.
>
> >> It's been a long time since I saw that movie, but I think I he would
> >> have done a very nice job as Noah. But, would he go for being
> >> directed by someone else after so many years?
>
> >Since he used to make fun of DeMille's biblical epics, why
> >would he want to act in one?
>
> >He toyed with the idea of playing Jesus, but I don't think he
> >had epic treatment in mind.
>
> >Connie K.
>
> Now that might get my vote for the best performance Chaplin never gave.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No, the best performance Chaplin never gave is the one he never gave
in front of HUAC. :)

Tom Moran
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:20 pm
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ulysses.RemoveThis@mscomm.com (Candace)
wrote:

>>Pauline Kael also thought Brando's
>movie
>The Chase was stellar, so her opinion is
>frequently worthless. She trashed
>Kuhrick's Lolita as well, inanely claiming
>James Mason was miscast.

She did nothing of the kind. She praised
Mason and the film.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 9:11 pm
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On 9 May 2007 16:30:45 -0700, Feuillade <Feuillade.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:

>On May 9, 6:22 pm, Phil P. <p....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 9 May 2007 13:44:11 -0700, "constance.kuriy...@ttu.edu"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <constance.kuriy....TakeThisOut@ttu.edu> wrote:
>> >On May 9, 11:05 am, "mlan...@yahoo.com" <mlan....TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On May 7, 9:48 pm, G-HE....TakeThisOut@webtv.net (George Shelps) wrote:
>>
>> >> > Noah, in John Huston's THE BIBLE.
>>
>> >> > Huston stated that he almost persuaded
>> >> > CC to play the part he eventually
>> >> > played himself.
>>
>> >> > I think it was one of Chaplin's greatest
>> >> > career miscalculations. He might
>> >> > have come back as s force in film
>> >> > acting late in life.
>>
>> >> It's been a long time since I saw that movie, but I think I he would
>> >> have done a very nice job as Noah. But, would he go for being
>> >> directed by someone else after so many years?
>>
>> >Since he used to make fun of DeMille's biblical epics, why
>> >would he want to act in one?
>>
>> >He toyed with the idea of playing Jesus, but I don't think he
>> >had epic treatment in mind.
>>
>> >Connie K.
>>
>> Now that might get my vote for the best performance Chaplin never gave.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>No, the best performance Chaplin never gave is the one he never gave
>in front of HUAC. :)
>
>Tom Moran
>
>
I think they'd be quite similar in that they'd both contain crucifixions.
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