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john_redman

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:15 am
Post subject: The plot of "Mr Uppity" resembles the plot of "Clockwork Orange"
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The things your mind wanders onto while reading bedtime stories to a 3
year old....

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:48 am
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john_redman.RemoveThis@my-deja.com wrote:
> The things your mind wanders onto while reading bedtime stories to a 3
> year old....

um........ You've been watching too many movies, man! :P

Mr. Uppity isnt ultra violent, surely?? I think Mr. Tickle can be
rather invasive at times!

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:13 am
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Tracy wrote:
> john_redman.TakeThisOut@my-deja.com wrote:
> > The things your mind wanders onto while reading bedtime stories to a 3
> > year old....
>
> um........ You've been watching too many movies, man! :P
>
> Mr. Uppity isnt ultra violent, surely?? I think Mr. Tickle can be
> rather invasive at times!

Well basically Mr Uppity is this anti-social creep who is habitually
rude. He is carted away by goblins whose chief tells him that in
future, through magic, he will be physically shrunk whenever he is
similarly rude to people. Mr Uppity is released and tries to be rude to
people, but every time, he is duly and humiliatingly shrunk as
promised. He starts being nice to people instead, but *only* to avoid
getting shrunk.

In 'A Clockwork Orange', Alex is this anti-social creep who is
habitually ultraviolent. He is carted away by government behavioural
scientists whose chief tells him that in future, through conditioning,
he will be physically nauseated whenever he is similarly ultraviolent
towards people. Alex is released and tries to be ultraviolent to
people, but every time, he is duly and humiliatingly nauseous as
promised. He starts being nice to people instead, but *only* to avoid
the feelings of nausea.

Both characters get to the end of the story with their anti-social
instincts completely intact - the 'treatment', in fact, only works as
long as they are. So no actual reform has occurred at all; neither is
any more morally competent than he was to begin with; and the question
remains as whether they will adjust to the conditioning anyway.

In fact their 'reformed' behaviour is the artificial result of forcing
mechanistic reactions onto those of a natural living being to create a
fundamentally unnatural consciousness: hence 'clockwork' orange IIRC.

See?

Tomorrow's essay will be entitled '"I say, stop it Timmy, that's
dirty!" - Phallocracy and Zoophilia on Blyton's Kirrin Island'.

How are keeping anyway sweetie?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:41 am
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john_redman.TakeThisOut@my-deja.com wrote:
> Tracy wrote:
> > john_redman.TakeThisOut@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > The things your mind wanders onto while reading bedtime stories to a 3
> > > year old....
> >
> > um........ You've been watching too many movies, man! :P
> >
> > Mr. Uppity isnt ultra violent, surely?? I think Mr. Tickle can be
> > rather invasive at times!
>
> Well basically Mr Uppity is this anti-social creep who is habitually
> rude. He is carted away by goblins whose chief tells him that in
> future, through magic, he will be physically shrunk whenever he is
> similarly rude to people. Mr Uppity is released and tries to be rude to
> people, but every time, he is duly and humiliatingly shrunk as
> promised. He starts being nice to people instead, but *only* to avoid
> getting shrunk.
>
> In 'A Clockwork Orange', Alex is this anti-social creep who is
> habitually ultraviolent. He is carted away by government behavioural
> scientists whose chief tells him that in future, through conditioning,
> he will be physically nauseated whenever he is similarly ultraviolent
> towards people. Alex is released and tries to be ultraviolent to
> people, but every time, he is duly and humiliatingly nauseous as
> promised. He starts being nice to people instead, but *only* to avoid
> the feelings of nausea.
>
> Both characters get to the end of the story with their anti-social
> instincts completely intact - the 'treatment', in fact, only works as
> long as they are. So no actual reform has occurred at all; neither is
> any more morally competent than he was to begin with; and the question
> remains as whether they will adjust to the conditioning anyway.
>
> In fact their 'reformed' behaviour is the artificial result of forcing
> mechanistic reactions onto those of a natural living being to create a
> fundamentally unnatural consciousness: hence 'clockwork' orange IIRC.
>
> See?

yes, the comparisons are quite astounding!!
>
> Tomorrow's essay will be entitled '"I say, stop it Timmy, that's
> dirty!" - Phallocracy and Zoophilia on Blyton's Kirrin Island'.
>
> How are keeping anyway sweetie?

I am keeping fine thanks (off to Egypt next week, cant wait!!).

How's you?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:25 am
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Tracy wrote:
> I am keeping fine thanks (off to Egypt next week, cant wait!!).

Watch out for marauding chariots. I am playing Rome: Total War a lot at
the moment and Egypt is full of them. You should be OK as long as you
keep your spearmen closed up.

> How's you?

Same old same old thank you for asking!
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:57 am
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john_redman.RemoveThis@my-deja.com wrote:
> Tracy wrote:
> > I am keeping fine thanks (off to Egypt next week, cant wait!!).
>
> Watch out for marauding chariots. I am playing Rome: Total War a lot at
> the moment and Egypt is full of them. You should be OK as long as you
> keep your spearmen closed up.

Thanks for the tip (geddit?) :))
>
> > How's you?
>
> Same old same old thank you for asking!

Have a holiday! :)))
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