How many more pro-Democrat propaganda movies are due?

Calvin wrote:
> On Oct 2, 11:46 am, Derek Janssen <ejan... RemoveThis @nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>George Peatty wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Want proof of that? Watch PBS on Sunday nights ..
>>
>>...The History Channel could show Ken Burns! :-P
>>
>>(sorry, just marveling at the rare spectacle of a goofy
>>show-conservative telling us to watch PBS)

> Here's another spectacle: Watch the interview with Clarence
> Thomas on the CBS News website.
>
> http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml

Oh, that's right, caught clips of that on "Desperate Non-Sequitir
Distraction Weekly"! ;)

Derek Janssen
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On Oct 4, 9:48 pm, trotsky <gmsi... RemoveThis @email.com> wrote:
> Calvin wrote:
> > But what about you? Why does disagreement with you,
> > politically, authorize you to righteously make public
> > accusations about someone's sexual orientation, and using
> > homophobic slurs in the process?
>
> I'm just trying to keep myself entertained. You?

Exactly. The same reason given by the schoolyard bully
and the poison-pen letter writer.

Case opened, case proved, case closed.
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On Oct 4, 9:48 pm, trotsky <gmsi... DeleteThis @email.com> wrote:
> RichA wrote:
> > Do you hate mirrors as much as vampires?
>
> No, but I hate you as much as vampires.

Hate is what the left is about all right.
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Calvin wrote:
> On Oct 4, 9:48 pm, trotsky <gmsi....TakeThisOut@email.com> wrote:
>> Calvin wrote:
>>> But what about you? Why does disagreement with you,
>>> politically, authorize you to righteously make public
>>> accusations about someone's sexual orientation, and using
>>> homophobic slurs in the process?
>> I'm just trying to keep myself entertained. You?
>
> Exactly. The same reason given by the schoolyard bully
> and the poison-pen letter writer.
>
> Case opened, case proved, case closed.


I assume your intellectual dishonesty precludes you from commenting on
the rest of the post?
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On Oct 5, 10:53 am, moviePig <pwall... RemoveThis @moviepig.com> wrote:
> On Oct 4, 10:33 pm, Calvin <cri... RemoveThis @windstream.net> wrote:
> > I had nothing to do with those posts. Chris Matthews
> > is the worst liberal on TV that I have watched regularly
> > (just to know what the enemy is saying). Jon Stewart has
> > a little bit of comedic talent, mainly in his patented double-
> > take. But watching him a few times was more than
> > enough. And watching Colbert twice was more than enough.
> > These guys, along will Bill Maher, are so smug it becomes
> > painful to look at them.
>
> Chris Matthews ultra-liberal... painful... hmm...
>
> "...the Senate and this country needs more people like-Well, what do I
> have to say? -- more people like that guy. [Republican Senator John
> Warner]. ... The Founding Fathers had that guy in mind."
> -Chris Matthews
>
> "My job is a job to make decisions. I'm a decision -- if the job
> description were, what do you do -- it's decision-maker. And I make a
> lot of big ones, and I make a lot of little ones."
> -Painful

I said 'worst' liberal, not that he is necessarily the most extreme
leftist. As for your Matthews quote, if I had been collecting them
too, I could give plenty of hair-raisers.

I assume your second quote is from Bush, but I have heard
plenty of good quotes from him. One quote does not a fair
impression make.

You are welcome to like Matthews and dislike Bush; and I
am welcome to like Bush and dislike Matthews; though I
think presidents should be compared to presidents, and
talk show hosts should be compared to talk show hosts.

I'm not going to continue this argument though. I was
having a pissing contest with trotsky, not a political
discussion.
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On Oct 5, 2:30 pm, trotsky <gmsi... RemoveThis @email.com> wrote:
> Calvin wrote:
> > You are welcome to like Matthews and dislike Bush; and I
> > am welcome to like Bush and dislike Matthews; though I
> > think presidents should be compared to presidents, and
> > talk show hosts should be compared to talk show hosts.
>
> > I'm not going to continue this argument though. I was
> > having a pissing contest with trotsky, not a political
> > discussion.
>
> You need to have your plumbing checked if you think that's the case.

It was moviePig who said that my arguments with you concerning
your claims about my sexual orientation were 'pissing contests'.
He gave that as his reason for not commenting. Someone should
call you on it, though. Using usenet for baseless public slander
is inappropriate, period, and mP and others should say so; but
they wont because I'm a conservative and you're a liberal.

A couple of posts back I gave a list of all of my posts, for you
to scan to find examples of me 'heaping adulation' on James
Franco and Jim Caviezel (whom you called 'strapping', though
I never used any such word). All you had to do was scan
what I provided, to find examples of what you claim.

Have you done so? Didn't think so. You use your poison
keyboard for insinuation and exaggeration, but not for truth.
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On Oct 5, 3:05 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan....TakeThisOut@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
> Unfortunately, this brings us to YOUR problem, which is your utter,
> desperate, pleading, craving, thread-stretching need for the rest of us
> to think you are an Important, Controversial Poster Who Begs to be Taken
> With Headline Seriousness...

I always read your posts with interest, but don't spend
much time replying, since you don't seem interested in a
conversation. I guess that's because you're a 'real poster'.

My problem is not as you describe it. My problem is a naive
belief that people will be fair if I point out their unfairness
clearly enough.
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On Oct 5, 12:59 pm, Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
> On Oct 5, 10:53 am, moviePig <pwall....TakeThisOut@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 10:33 pm, Calvin <cri....TakeThisOut@windstream.net> wrote:
> > > I had nothing to do with those posts. Chris Matthews
> > > is the worst liberal on TV that I have watched regularly
> > > (just to know what the enemy is saying). Jon Stewart has
> > > a little bit of comedic talent, mainly in his patented double-
> > > take. But watching him a few times was more than
> > > enough. And watching Colbert twice was more than enough.
> > > These guys, along will Bill Maher, are so smug it becomes
> > > painful to look at them.
>
> > Chris Matthews ultra-liberal... painful... hmm...
>
> > "...the Senate and this country needs more people like-Well, what do I
> > have to say? -- more people like that guy. [Republican Senator John
> > Warner]. ... The Founding Fathers had that guy in mind."
> > -Chris Matthews
>
> > "My job is a job to make decisions. I'm a decision -- if the job
> > description were, what do you do -- it's decision-maker. And I make a
> > lot of big ones, and I make a lot of little ones."
> > -Painful
>
> I said 'worst' liberal, not that he is necessarily the most extreme
> leftist. As for your Matthews quote, if I had been collecting them
> too, I could give plenty of hair-raisers.
>
> I assume your second quote is from Bush, but I have heard
> plenty of good quotes from him. One quote does not a fair
> impression make.
>
> You are welcome to like Matthews and dislike Bush; and I
> am welcome to like Bush and dislike Matthews; though I
> think presidents should be compared to presidents, and
> talk show hosts should be compared to talk show hosts.
>
> I'm not going to continue this argument though. I was
> having a pissing contest with trotsky, not a political
> discussion.

Ftr, I hardly ever watch Matthews's show... but, in light of
surprising dismissals here of him as a liberal toady, I overheard that
recent Warner paean in background, and was able to Google it for my
post. I.e., it's hardly a "collected quote", and you should as easily
be able to produce several to support your claims about him.

Re Painful's quote, it's from a recent press-conference that, again, I
happened to overhear live (rather than on Jon Stewart's later
reprise). And "painful" is exactly the word that came instantly to
mind... as I listened yet again to the our leader's self-assured,
content-free style... which I think of as 'condescension in search of
an inferior'...

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On Oct 5, 5:33 pm, Calvin <cri....RemoveThis@windstream.net> wrote:
> On Oct 5, 4:29 pm, moviePig <pwall....RemoveThis@moviepig.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 5, 12:59 pm, Calvin <cri....RemoveThis@windstream.net> wrote:
> > > On Oct 5, 10:53 am, moviePig <pwall....RemoveThis@moviepig.com> wrote:
> > > > Chris Matthews ultra-liberal... painful... hmm...
> > > > "...the Senate and this country needs more people like-Well, what do I
> > > > have to say? -- more people like that guy. [Republican Senator John
> > > > Warner]. ... The Founding Fathers had that guy in mind."
> > > > -Chris Matthews
> > > > "My job is a job to make decisions. I'm a decision -- if the job
> > > > description were, what do you do -- it's decision-maker. And I make a
> > > > lot of big ones, and I make a lot of little ones."
> > > > -Painful
>
> > > I said 'worst' liberal, not that he is necessarily the most extreme
> > > leftist. As for your Matthews quote, if I had been collecting them
> > > too, I could give plenty of hair-raisers.
> > > I assume your second quote is from Bush, but I have heard
> > > plenty of good quotes from him. One quote does not a fair
> > > impression make.
> > > You are welcome to like Matthews and dislike Bush; and I
> > > am welcome to like Bush and dislike Matthews; though I
> > > think presidents should be compared to presidents, and
> > > talk show hosts should be compared to talk show hosts.
> > > I'm not going to continue this argument though. I was
> > > having a pissing contest with trotsky, not a political
> > > discussion.
>
> > Ftr, I hardly ever watch Matthews's show... but, in light of
> > surprising dismissals here of him as a liberal toady, I overheard that
> > recent Warner paean in background, and was able to Google it for my
> > post. I.e., it's hardly a "collected quote", and you should as easily
> > be able to produce several to support your claims about him.
>
> > Re Painful's quote, it's from a recent press-conference that, again, I
> > happened to overhear live (rather than on Jon Stewart's later
> > reprise). And "painful" is exactly the word that came instantly to
> > mind... as I listened yet again to the our leader's self-assured,
> > content-free style... which I think of as 'condescension in search of
> > an inferior'...
>
> I wonder why you take pleasure in expressing your disdain
> for Bush to me. As for Matthews quotes, I don't (as you once
> said you didn't) Google things for evidence. I Google things
> for information.
>
> But I do remember him saying "you're great" to Ann Coulter.
> Of course he wasn't saying that he agreed with anything she
> said, but he was (it seemed to me) complimenting her on
> how entertainingly she wields her persona, or maybe her
> schtick.

I don't know how you manage to distinguish 'evidence' from
'information'. Regardless, and again ftr, I'd intended to paraphrase
both quotes, but found I could easily Google them ...and thus do them
and you the justice of providing better information. And I was
prompted to reply at all merely by the spontaneity with your
juxtaposition of "liberal" and "painful" jerked those tv moments from
my memory.

Re Ann Coulter... I've said about the same as Matthews did... although
she makes it increasingly difficult... (as one hopes she may actually
find it...)

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Calvin wrote:
> On Oct 5, 10:53 am, moviePig <pwall... RemoveThis @moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 4, 10:33 pm, Calvin <cri... RemoveThis @windstream.net> wrote:
>>> I had nothing to do with those posts. Chris Matthews
>>> is the worst liberal on TV that I have watched regularly
>>> (just to know what the enemy is saying). Jon Stewart has
>>> a little bit of comedic talent, mainly in his patented double-
>>> take. But watching him a few times was more than
>>> enough. And watching Colbert twice was more than enough.
>>> These guys, along will Bill Maher, are so smug it becomes
>>> painful to look at them.
>> Chris Matthews ultra-liberal... painful... hmm...
>>
>> "...the Senate and this country needs more people like-Well, what do I
>> have to say? -- more people like that guy. [Republican Senator John
>> Warner]. ... The Founding Fathers had that guy in mind."
>> -Chris Matthews
>>
>> "My job is a job to make decisions. I'm a decision -- if the job
>> description were, what do you do -- it's decision-maker. And I make a
>> lot of big ones, and I make a lot of little ones."
>> -Painful
>
> I said 'worst' liberal, not that he is necessarily the most extreme
> leftist. As for your Matthews quote, if I had been collecting them
> too, I could give plenty of hair-raisers.
>
> I assume your second quote is from Bush, but I have heard
> plenty of good quotes from him. One quote does not a fair
> impression make.
>
> You are welcome to like Matthews and dislike Bush; and I
> am welcome to like Bush and dislike Matthews; though I
> think presidents should be compared to presidents, and
> talk show hosts should be compared to talk show hosts.
>
> I'm not going to continue this argument though. I was
> having a pissing contest with trotsky, not a political
> discussion.


You need to have your plumbing checked if you think that's the case.
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Calvin wrote:

> On Oct 5, 2:30 pm, trotsky <gmsi....RemoveThis@email.com> wrote:
>
>>Calvin wrote:
>>
>>>I'm not going to continue this argument though. I was
>>>having a pissing contest with trotsky, not a political
>>>discussion.
>>
>>You need to have your plumbing checked if you think that's the case.
>
> It was moviePig who said that my arguments with you concerning
> your claims about my sexual orientation were 'pissing contests'.

Well, he was correct:
Trotsky, due his "difficulty" of not ever being able to discuss movies,
tends to be the "Let's You And Him Fight" poster who wants to *keep*
arguments going without actually starting one himself.
This requires any one of his five "defaults", (eg. Grammatical
Correction, Non-Sequitir Filler-Joke, etc.)...
But, as already noted, he's sort of gotten stuck on the "Gay Joke" rut.
(Default Usenet-responses are like underwear, it kind of helps if you
can change them at least once a month.)

With other posters, this would not normally be a problem, as most either
have him killfiled already, or his "Umm...yeah." lack of followable
material tends to stop thread branches in their tracks.
Unfortunately, this brings us to YOUR problem, which is your utter,
desperate, pleading, craving, thread-stretching need for the rest of us
to think you are an Important, Controversial Poster Who Begs to be Taken
With Headline Seriousness...Or perhaps it really *is* some indescribable
"What's a killfile?" naivete that makes you respond to anyone, anywhere,
on any thread, for any reason, with utter newborn-baby believes that the
poster is some evil George Washington, who cannot write a fake post.
Frankly, we're still trying to figure out which one it is, either.

And if you're not faking it, sooner or later on the net, Faker and
Sucker will attract to each other like positive and negative charges.
It's easy to say "You two deserve each other", if it wasn't for the fact
that the rest of us Real Posters have to watch it.
(Now at this point, the Actual Troll would get all high-dudgeon and say,
"Well, why don'tcha just use your killfile, then?"...So, help us out here.)

> Have you done so? Didn't think so. You use your poison
> keyboard for insinuation and exaggeration, but not for truth.

So...You're starting to notice. Good. You've taken the first step on
the road to Killfile.

Derek Janssen (learn well, Grasshopper)
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Calvin wrote:

> On Oct 5, 3:05 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan... RemoveThis @nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Unfortunately, this brings us to YOUR problem, which is your utter,
>>desperate, pleading, craving, thread-stretching need for the rest of us
>>to think you are an Important, Controversial Poster Who Begs to be Taken
>>With Headline Seriousness...
>
> I always read your posts with interest, but don't spend
> much time replying, since you don't seem interested in a
> conversation. I guess that's because you're a 'real poster'.
>
> My problem is not as you describe it. My problem is a naive
> belief that people will be fair if I point out their unfairness
> clearly enough.

Ah, so it is B), the Sucker "who scares ants away by pouring sugar on
the ground". Kinda suspected.

Derek Janssen (well, it was one of two)
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On Oct 5, 5:57 pm, moviePig <pwall... RemoveThis @moviepig.com> wrote:
> I don't know how you manage to distinguish 'evidence' from
> 'information'. Regardless, and again ftr, I'd intended to paraphrase
> both quotes, but found I could easily Google them ...and thus do them
> and you the justice of providing better information.

I wasn't complaining about you using Google to get a
partially remembered quote right. I do that all the time,
and often Google names and words just to get the
spelling right, like 'schtick'. But you challenged me to
Google some Matthews quotes to support my case
against him, and I refuse on the grounds that one can
Google up supporting evidence for anything. A Google
war never ends. Thus I don't Google for evidence, only
for information.

> And I was
> prompted to reply at all merely by the spontaneity with your
> juxtaposition of "liberal" and "painful" jerked those tv moments from
> my memory.

Actually, what I said was that Stewart, Colbert, and Maher
are painful to look at because of their smugness.

> Re Ann Coulter... I've said about the same as Matthews did... although
> she makes it increasingly difficult... (as one hopes she may actually
> find it...)

I like and admire her, and hope she continues to prosper
and grate on the left.
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