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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:38 am
Post subject: [review] black water valley exorcism
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OK, so this movie could have been much better if it were filmed more
professionally, maybe on a larger budget.
It is supposed to be based on true events, and the exorcism scenes are
supposed to be as the roman catholic church perform them, but I have my
sincere doubts.
First of all, the 'demon' is jumping from one body to the next, and I have
never heard of anything like that happening.
Second, the priest doesn't wait for the exorcism to be sanctioned by the
vatican, AND used to have or still has, I'm not sure, a relationship with
the sister of the victim! And as we all know, roman catholic priests are
supposed to be celibate.
So, all together, I doubt how much of the stort actually is based on true
events. Yeah, there may have been someone possessed or think they were
possessed some time, but that is as far as thr truth to this story goes, I
think.
If anyone knows better, do let me know.
Natascha
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:59 pm
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Seems that you didn't truly enjoy this one. I can't judge I've never
even heard of this one before. My problem with all these exorcism movies
is that they all use Catholic Priests. Nothing against them but the
whole thing just gets too predictable, try a Protestant approach for
once, that's all I ask. I think I do understand why they use Catholics,
there is much theatrics involved, I mean that the Protestants don't have
to worry about being equipped with Holy water or Latin incantations.
Natascha wrote:
> OK, so this movie could have been much better if it were filmed more
> professionally, maybe on a larger budget.
> It is supposed to be based on true events, and the exorcism scenes are
> supposed to be as the roman catholic church perform them, but I have my
> sincere doubts.
> First of all, the 'demon' is jumping from one body to the next, and I have
> never heard of anything like that happening.
> Second, the priest doesn't wait for the exorcism to be sanctioned by the
> vatican, AND used to have or still has, I'm not sure, a relationship with
> the sister of the victim! And as we all know, roman catholic priests are
> supposed to be celibate.
about right here is were the tasteless joke about pedophile priest
would go.
> So, all together, I doubt how much of the stort actually is based on true
> events. Yeah, there may have been someone possessed or think they were
> possessed some time, but that is as far as thr truth to this story goes, I
> think.
> If anyone knows better, do let me know.
> Natascha
>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:29 pm
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Well I think is the same think that using terrorist guys, try to do a movie
with bad Krisna guys having bombs around there belly :-)... The
photogenicside of them :-)
Ben
"Superfly Silverman" <notreal.RemoveThis@spamguard.com> a écrit dans le message de
news: bPjgh.44075$qp1.29165@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Seems that you didn't truly enjoy this one. I can't judge I've never even
> heard of this one before. My problem with all these exorcism movies is
> that they all use Catholic Priests. Nothing against them but the whole
> thing just gets too predictable, try a Protestant approach for once,
> that's all I ask. I think I do understand why they use Catholics, there is
> much theatrics involved, I mean that the Protestants don't have to worry
> about being equipped with Holy water or Latin incantations.
>
> Natascha wrote:
>> OK, so this movie could have been much better if it were filmed more
>> professionally, maybe on a larger budget.
>> It is supposed to be based on true events, and the exorcism scenes are
>> supposed to be as the roman catholic church perform them, but I have my
>> sincere doubts.
>> First of all, the 'demon' is jumping from one body to the next, and I
>> have never heard of anything like that happening.
>> Second, the priest doesn't wait for the exorcism to be sanctioned by the
>> vatican, AND used to have or still has, I'm not sure, a relationship with
>> the sister of the victim! And as we all know, roman catholic priests are
>> supposed to be celibate.
>
> about right here is were the tasteless joke about pedophile priest would
> go.
>
>> So, all together, I doubt how much of the stort actually is based on true
>> events. Yeah, there may have been someone possessed or think they were
>> possessed some time, but that is as far as thr truth to this story goes,
>> I think.
>> If anyone knows better, do let me know.
>> Natascha
>>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:44 pm
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That's what I'm talking about. Shake things up a little, have a
platoon of Nuns rescue a Special Forces unit.
Benoît Meulle-Stef wrote:
> Well I think is the same think that using terrorist guys, try to do a movie
> with bad Krisna guys having bombs around there belly :-)... The
> photogenicside of them :-)
> Ben
> "Superfly Silverman" <notreal DeleteThis @spamguard.com> a écrit dans le message de
> news: bPjgh.44075$qp1.29165@tornado.texas.rr.com...
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>> Seems that you didn't truly enjoy this one. I can't judge I've never even
>>heard of this one before. My problem with all these exorcism movies is
>>that they all use Catholic Priests. Nothing against them but the whole
>>thing just gets too predictable, try a Protestant approach for once,
>>that's all I ask. I think I do understand why they use Catholics, there is
>>much theatrics involved, I mean that the Protestants don't have to worry
>>about being equipped with Holy water or Latin incantations.
>>
>>Natascha wrote:
>>
>>>OK, so this movie could have been much better if it were filmed more
>>>professionally, maybe on a larger budget.
>>>It is supposed to be based on true events, and the exorcism scenes are
>>>supposed to be as the roman catholic church perform them, but I have my
>>>sincere doubts.
>>>First of all, the 'demon' is jumping from one body to the next, and I
>>>have never heard of anything like that happening.
>>>Second, the priest doesn't wait for the exorcism to be sanctioned by the
>>>vatican, AND used to have or still has, I'm not sure, a relationship with
>>>the sister of the victim! And as we all know, roman catholic priests are
>>>supposed to be celibate.
>>
>> about right here is were the tasteless joke about pedophile priest would
>>go.
>>
>>
>>>So, all together, I doubt how much of the stort actually is based on true
>>>events. Yeah, there may have been someone possessed or think they were
>>>possessed some time, but that is as far as thr truth to this story goes,
>>>I think.
>>>If anyone knows better, do let me know.
>>>Natascha
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>I intend to live forever; so far, so good
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:31 pm
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you guys are nuts LOL
Natascha
"Superfly Silverman" <notreal DeleteThis @spamguard.com> schreef in bericht
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> That's what I'm talking about. Shake things up a little, have a platoon
> of Nuns rescue a Special Forces unit.
>
> Benoît Meulle-Stef wrote:
>> Well I think is the same think that using terrorist guys, try to do a
>> movie with bad Krisna guys having bombs around there belly :-)... The
>> photogenicside of them :-)
>> Ben
>> "Superfly Silverman" <notreal DeleteThis @spamguard.com> a écrit dans le message de
>> news: bPjgh.44075$qp1.29165@tornado.texas.rr.com...
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>>> Seems that you didn't truly enjoy this one. I can't judge I've never
>>> even heard of this one before. My problem with all these exorcism movies
>>> is that they all use Catholic Priests. Nothing against them but the
>>> whole thing just gets too predictable, try a Protestant approach for
>>> once, that's all I ask. I think I do understand why they use Catholics,
>>> there is much theatrics involved, I mean that the Protestants don't have
>>> to worry about being equipped with Holy water or Latin incantations.
>>>
>>>Natascha wrote:
>>>
>>>>OK, so this movie could have been much better if it were filmed more
>>>>professionally, maybe on a larger budget.
>>>>It is supposed to be based on true events, and the exorcism scenes are
>>>>supposed to be as the roman catholic church perform them, but I have my
>>>>sincere doubts.
>>>>First of all, the 'demon' is jumping from one body to the next, and I
>>>>have never heard of anything like that happening.
>>>>Second, the priest doesn't wait for the exorcism to be sanctioned by the
>>>>vatican, AND used to have or still has, I'm not sure, a relationship
>>>>with the sister of the victim! And as we all know, roman catholic
>>>>priests are supposed to be celibate.
>>>
>>> about right here is were the tasteless joke about pedophile priest would
>>> go.
>>>
>>>
>>>>So, all together, I doubt how much of the stort actually is based on
>>>>true events. Yeah, there may have been someone possessed or think they
>>>>were possessed some time, but that is as far as thr truth to this story
>>>>goes, I think.
>>>>If anyone knows better, do let me know.
>>>>Natascha
>>>>
>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>I intend to live forever; so far, so good
>>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:12 pm
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"Natascha" <kittycat.RemoveThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote in
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> First of all, the 'demon' is jumping from one body to the next, and I
> have never heard of anything like that happening.
It's been known to happen
> Second, the priest doesn't wait for the exorcism to be sanctioned by
> the vatican, AND used to have or still has, I'm not sure, a
> relationship with the sister of the victim! And as we all know, roman
> catholic priests are supposed to be celibate.
>
That does NOT happen. No catholic priest is allowed to perfom any kind of
exorcism without certain conditions being met and church sanction. It's
not sanctioned by the vatican, but it does have to be sanctioned by the
ruling board of cardinals of that city. There have to be definite signs
that a possession has occured, and psychiatric examinations have to take
place. And the church usually assigns the exorcist. They're very strict
about this and an exorcism is not something the church takes lightly. The
most a priest can do without sanction is to bless the house. That;'s it.
--
I still say my friend would have survived his horrible accident if only
the ambulance people had brought enough buckets.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:58 am
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Actualy Catholic pries started to be celibate in 1304...
Cheers
Ben
"Bonestructure" <bone RemoveThis @1s.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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> "Natascha" <kittycat RemoveThis @wanadoo.nl> wrote in
> news:45808eda$0$15362$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl:
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>> First of all, the 'demon' is jumping from one body to the next, and I
>> have never heard of anything like that happening.
>
> It's been known to happen
>
>> Second, the priest doesn't wait for the exorcism to be sanctioned by
>> the vatican, AND used to have or still has, I'm not sure, a
>> relationship with the sister of the victim! And as we all know, roman
>> catholic priests are supposed to be celibate.
>>
>
> That does NOT happen. No catholic priest is allowed to perfom any kind of
> exorcism without certain conditions being met and church sanction. It's
> not sanctioned by the vatican, but it does have to be sanctioned by the
> ruling board of cardinals of that city. There have to be definite signs
> that a possession has occured, and psychiatric examinations have to take
> place. And the church usually assigns the exorcist. They're very strict
> about this and an exorcism is not something the church takes lightly. The
> most a priest can do without sanction is to bless the house. That;'s it.
>
> --
> I still say my friend would have survived his horrible accident if only
> the ambulance people had brought enough buckets.
>
> http://www.bonestructure.net
> >> Stay informed about: [review] black water valley exorcism |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:53 pm
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really?
well, this movies was portrayed in, uhm, well, now, so he should have been
celibate, then again we all know a lot of priests are NOT celibate.
Oh well, I thought for a movie it was just, well, not right, to portray a
priest like this. LOL
Natascha
"Benoît Meulle-Stef" <bmsguitarsNOSPAMS.DeleteThis@biz.scarlet.be> schreef in bericht
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> Actualy Catholic pries started to be celibate in 1304...
> Cheers
> Ben
> "Bonestructure" <bone.DeleteThis@1s.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
> Xns989AAF1593FBBbone1snet.DeleteThis@216.196.97.142...
>> "Natascha" <kittycat.DeleteThis@wanadoo.nl> wrote in
>> news:45808eda$0$15362$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl:
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>>> First of all, the 'demon' is jumping from one body to the next, and I
>>> have never heard of anything like that happening.
>>
>> It's been known to happen
>>
>>> Second, the priest doesn't wait for the exorcism to be sanctioned by
>>> the vatican, AND used to have or still has, I'm not sure, a
>>> relationship with the sister of the victim! And as we all know, roman
>>> catholic priests are supposed to be celibate.
>>>
>>
>> That does NOT happen. No catholic priest is allowed to perfom any kind of
>> exorcism without certain conditions being met and church sanction. It's
>> not sanctioned by the vatican, but it does have to be sanctioned by the
>> ruling board of cardinals of that city. There have to be definite signs
>> that a possession has occured, and psychiatric examinations have to take
>> place. And the church usually assigns the exorcist. They're very strict
>> about this and an exorcism is not something the church takes lightly. The
>> most a priest can do without sanction is to bless the house. That;'s it.
>>
>> --
>> I still say my friend would have survived his horrible accident if only
>> the ambulance people had brought enough buckets.
>>
>> http://www.bonestructure.net
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:54 pm
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I know!! That is what bothered me (among the other things I mentioned), and
then to claim it is all based on how the church performs exorcisms, which
they do at the beginning of this movie!!
Natascha
"Bonestructure" <bone.RemoveThis@1s.net> schreef in bericht
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> That does NOT happen. No catholic priest is allowed to perfom any kind of
> exorcism without certain conditions being met and church sanction. It's
> not sanctioned by the vatican, but it does have to be sanctioned by the
> ruling board of cardinals of that city. There have to be definite signs
> that a possession has occured, and psychiatric examinations have to take
> place. And the church usually assigns the exorcist. They're very strict
> about this and an exorcism is not something the church takes lightly. The
> most a priest can do without sanction is to bless the house. That;'s it.
>
> --
> I still say my friend would have survived his horrible accident if only
> the ambulance people had brought enough buckets.
>
> http://www.bonestructure.net
> >> Stay informed about: [review] black water valley exorcism |
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