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sawakatoome

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:42 am
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What's everyone's favourite Hitchcock scene and why?

It might be totally obvious (the shower scene in 'Psycho', the Albert
Hall scene in either version of 'The Man Who Knew Too Much') .. it
might not (Mme Grandfort's flashback scene in 'I Confess', the
chocolate factory scene in 'Secret Agent') .. it doesn't matter.

Think of a Hitchcock film and name the scene from that film that always
jumps out at you when you do.

Can you say why you reckon it jumps out at you? What made you think
of/mention that one and not the scene that immediately succeeded it?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 8:53 am
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One scene that I love is the one in 'Rear Window', where Lisa has just
gone back into the kitchen and Jeffries absentmindedly gazes out the
window and over at Miss Lonelyhearts' apartment.

Bing Crosby singing "To See You Is To Love You" is playing somewhere
(perfectly accompanying the drama of Miss Lonelyhearts being romanced
by her pretend and unseen lover) ... the dominant colour is a beautiful
and melancholy red (IIRC) and the atmosphere is nostalgic, forlorn and
of a yearning for lost chances and opportunities.

Hmm, I'm totally in the mood to watch 'Rear Window' now. (Haven't seen
it in a few years.)

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:45 am
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In "Vertigo" when we see Jimmy Stewart and the bar and the camera
slowly moves through the restaurant and spot Kim Novak. Brilliant
direction.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:01 pm
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"sawakatoome" <sawakatoome DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> One scene that I love is the one in 'Rear Window', where Lisa has just
> gone back into the kitchen and Jeffries absentmindedly gazes out the
> window and over at Miss Lonelyhearts' apartment.
>
> Bing Crosby singing "To See You Is To Love You" is playing somewhere
> (perfectly accompanying the drama of Miss Lonelyhearts being romanced
> by her pretend and unseen lover) ... the dominant colour is a beautiful
> and melancholy red (IIRC) and the atmosphere is nostalgic, forlorn and
> of a yearning for lost chances and opportunities.


I like the scene where we see the photograph of the race car with the wheel
flying toward the camera, leading us to assume this is how Jeff's leg got
broken.

Another is of course the close up of pointing to the ring on her hand behind
the back.

Steve
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:03 pm
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<jas3777 RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> In "Vertigo" when we see Jimmy Stewart and the bar and the camera
> slowly moves through the restaurant and spot Kim Novak. Brilliant
> direction.
>

Too many to mention in Vertigo! The room spinning and turning into the
stable - now that's fantastic.

Steve
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:08 pm
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"sawakatoome" <sawakatoome.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> What's everyone's favourite Hitchcock scene and why?
>
> It might be totally obvious (the shower scene in 'Psycho', the Albert
> Hall scene in either version of 'The Man Who Knew Too Much') .. it
> might not (Mme Grandfort's flashback scene in 'I Confess', the
> chocolate factory scene in 'Secret Agent') .. it doesn't matter.
>
> Think of a Hitchcock film and name the scene from that film that always
> jumps out at you when you do.
>
> Can you say why you reckon it jumps out at you? What made you think
> of/mention that one and not the scene that immediately succeeded it?

The scream in The Lady Vanishes where her mouth dissolves into the train
tunnel.
The lighter on the edge of the table in Strangers.
The cup (large size!) in Notorious.

I'm mentioning more of "shots" in everything here, but I find so many
fascinating ones - the way Hitch gives you subtle (or not so subtle
sometimes) clues within the scene that make the scene stand out to me!

Steve
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Rich

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:39 pm
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I wish that someone could explain how Scottie was able to descend the
stairs of the apartment building when he could not even stand on a step
stool?

I like the story, but think that Hitch should have done something about
this scene.

Rich Wagner
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:44 am
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Since fox hunting is being outlawed, I'm glad that I still have Hitch's
"The Farmer's Wife" that included a fox hunt club. It must have been a
challange to film something like that with so many dogs. A very
interesting view of days gone by.

Rich
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:56 pm
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On 17 Feb 2006 04:44:12 -0800, bigsilentfan.RemoveThis@aol.com wrote:

>Since fox hunting is being outlawed, I'm glad that I still have Hitch's
>"The Farmer's Wife" that included a fox hunt club. It must have been a
>challange to film something like that with so many dogs. A very
>interesting view of days gone by.
>
>Rich
Rich:

I haven't watched it for a while but wasn't there a fox hunt in
Suspicion and perhaps a few other films as well.

I a sick todayand under medication so if this is totally off the wall
please judge accordingly. I don't think my brain is functioning very
well today.

It was not uncommon for Hitch to have animals like the sheep in THE 39
STEPS disrupt travel. I am likely not correct but you might want to
check a few of the other films for fox hunts. Ones that might
possible have

Young and Innocent (1937)
The Manxman (1929)
The 39 Steps (1935)
Rebecca (1940)
The Paradine Case (1947)
and perhaps even in
Marnie (1964)

Does anyone know?

Best wishes,

Vic
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:19 pm
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"Rich" <BigSilentFan.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>I wish that someone could explain how Scottie was able to descend the
> stairs of the apartment building when he could not even stand on a step
> stool?
>

Stupid question, but, did he look down? IIRC when he was on the step stool
he didn't have the problem until he looked down (maybe out through the
window down to the street).

Steve
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:21 am
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Vic wrote:
>I haven't watched it for a while but wasn't there a fox hunt in
>Suspicion and perhaps a few other films as well.

sawky replies:
You're right. And also about 'Marnie'. As far as I can remember, that's
the extent of fox-hunting in Hitchcock. ... As I say, as far as I can
remember ..
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:22 am
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My favorite Hitchcock scene...

Just about every one in "North By Northwest."

James Mason enters the library and confronts Cary Grant.

"You aren't really going to kill my son, are you?"

The murder at the U.N.

Grant makes love to Eva Marie Saint in the train compartment.

The crop duster attack.

The auction house confrontation, Grant and Mason,

and more.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:57 pm
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John wrote:
> My favorite Hitchcock scene...
>
> Just about every one in "North By Northwest."
>
> James Mason enters the library and confronts Cary Grant.
>
> "You aren't really going to kill my son, are you?"
>
> The murder at the U.N.
>
> Grant makes love to Eva Marie Saint in the train compartment.
>
> The crop duster attack.
>
> The auction house confrontation, Grant and Mason,
>
> and more.

Although I like the scenes from Saboteur where the handcuffs are being
cut on the auto-fan and also, the confrontation at the spy-ring
leader's pool, NxNW is my favorite.
And from that film, three scenes:

1)Carried out of the Plaza by the thugs into the Caddie is strong,
since it marks ROT's embarkment on adventure, away from his affluent,
but tedious life [and his *mother*, via VanDamm, to Eve].

2) intermezzo:The scene in the library as he awaits his "host" and
contemplates escape.

3) Ultimate: At VanDamm's, ROT looks at the landing lights, as strings
pluck in tempo with the blinking. We don't know yet that Eve is to be
dropped into the sea, but ROT has had enough airplane trouble already.
Like the car trip, it suggests sustained adventure, which is had
instead on the train, later. Its the mark of "the beginning of the
end."

Sequence of car ride, first train ride, library, and final liberation
from Mom, literally, Dad(The Professor) and Rival(VanDamm) seems a very
freudian/adolescent-maturity sexual-adventure metaphor.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:10 pm
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After a hiatus of 6 weeks I'd like to mention one of many favourite scenes
in NBNW where ROT is at the police station playing drunk. Later he bribes
his mother to make a phone call; hilarious.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:26 pm
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Helllooo...Mmmother. ..Thishh ishh you're son, rrRoger Thhhornnhilluh!

Roger, you are disgraceful! [snaps the fifty from ROT's hand]

Roger O. Thornhill; what does the "O" stand for?
Oh nothing.[shrug]
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