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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: scratch track on consumer camera? Archived from groups: rec>arts>movies>production>sound (more info?)

Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? Bob Morein Dresher, PA (215) 646-4894 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bob, which camera (brand,type) will be the victim? Your feed will be wired or wireless ? Without that information its difficult to help. What about using 302 tape/mix-output,TAE-3 to XLR3-adaptor,-30(40)dB-barrel, XLR3 to 3,5mm mini jack ? Maybe a way to save your 302 HP-output. All the best, Florian Niederleithinger Soundhaspriority schrieb: > Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer > camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've > got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 > with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? > > Bob Morein > Dresher, PA > (215) 646-4894 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bob, which camera (brand,type) will be the victim? Your feed will be wired or wireless ? Without that information its difficult to help. What about using 302 tape/mix-output,TAE-3 to XLR3-adaptor,-30(40)dB-barrel, XLR3 to 3,5mm mini jack ? Maybe a way to save your 302 HP-output. All the best, Florian Niederleithinger Soundhaspriority schrieb: > Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer > camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've > got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 > with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? > > Bob Morein > Dresher, PA > (215) 646-4894 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bob, which camera (brand,type) will be the victim? Your feed will be wired or wireless ? Without that information its difficult to help. What about using 302 tape/mix-output,TAE-3 to XLR3-adaptor,-30(40)dB-barrel, XLR3 to 3,5mm mini jack ? Maybe a way to save your 302 HP-output. All the best, Florian Niederleithinger Soundhaspriority schrieb: > Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer > camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've > got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 > with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? > > Bob Morein > Dresher, PA > (215) 646-4894 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bob, which camera (brand,type) will be the victim? Your feed will be wired or wireless ? Without that information its difficult to help. What about using 302 tape/mix-output,TAE-3 to XLR3-adaptor,-30(40)dB-barrel, XLR3 to 3,5mm mini jack ? Maybe a way to save your 302 HP-output. All the best, Florian Niederleithinger Soundhaspriority schrieb: > Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer > camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've > got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 > with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? > > Bob Morein > Dresher, PA > (215) 646-4894 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

flo

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Bob, which camera (brand,type) will be the victim? Your feed will be wired or wireless ? Without that information its difficult to help. What about using 302 tape/mix-output,TAE-3 to XLR3-adaptor,-30(40)dB-barrel, XLR3 to 3,5mm mini jack ? Maybe a way to save your 302 HP-output. All the best, Florian Niederleithinger Soundhaspriority schrieb: > Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer > camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've > got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 > with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? > > Bob Morein > Dresher, PA > (215) 646-4894 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

sorry for the waste, florian flo schrieb: > Bob, > > which camera (brand,type) will be the victim? > Your feed will be wired or wireless ? > Without that information its difficult to help. > > What about using 302 tape/mix-output,TAE-3 to > XLR3-adaptor,-30(40)dB-barrel, > XLR3 to 3,5mm mini jack ? Maybe a way to save your 302 HP-output. > > All the best, > > Florian Niederleithinger > > > Soundhaspriority schrieb: > > > Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer > > camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've > > got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 > > with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? > > > > Bob Morein > > Dresher, PA > > (215) 646-4894 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

MitchB4610

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Soundhaspriority wrote: > Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer > camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've > got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 > with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? > > Bob Morein > Dresher, PA > (215) 646-4894 Use this: http://www.trewaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=146&cat=31&page=1 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

It's a Panasonic PV-DV400D "flo" <niederleithinger RemoveThis @googlemail.com> wrote in message news:1169236960.879265.163620@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Bob, > > which camera (brand,type) will be the victim? > Your feed will be wired or wireless ? > Without that information its difficult to help. > > What about using 302 tape/mix-output,TAE-3 to > XLR3-adaptor,-30(40)dB-barrel, > XLR3 to 3,5mm mini jack ? Maybe a way to save your 302 HP-output. > > All the best, > > Florian Niederleithinger > Soundhaspriority schrieb: > >> Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer >> camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. >> I've >> got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 >> with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? >> >> Bob Morein >> Dresher, PA >> (215) 646-4894 > >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

MitchB4610

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Soundhaspriority wrote: > Please don't laugh, but I have to put a scratch track on a POS consumer > camera. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug mike input, AVC, no level controls. I've > got a 744T and a 302. Is it feasible to use the headphone out on the 302 > with the volume turned down to get an appropriate level? > > Bob Morein > Dresher, PA > (215) 646-4894 If you dont want to spend the $50 bucks for the cable you can make one. XLR pin 1 to sleeve of mini plug --pin 2 to tip (or ring) for single channel -- pin 2 to tip and ring for mono 2 channel. Use the mic out level on your mixer. -- no problem. Do a test record to find proper levels. >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

If it is truly a scratch track, just turn on the on-board mic. Of course if it is to be edited from, despite the superior sound of the double-system, then follow the above directions. >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

<AdmNaismith RemoveThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message news:1169262288.514990.169440@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > If it is truly a scratch track, just turn on the on-board mic. Of > course if it is to be edited from, despite the superior sound of the > double-system, then follow the above directions. > Thanks. It's really just a messy wiring problem. I was hoping someone could recommend an inline pad that would take the line-out on the 302 down to mike level. Bob Morein Dresher, PA (215) 646-4894 >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> I was hoping someone could > recommend an inline pad that would take the line-out on the 302 down to mike > level. Then you want a Beachtek or Sign Video box ( http://www.equipmentemporium.com/videoaudio.htm ). These are just the solution you are looking for. I used my Sign Video box with my MixPre, though it has been a couple of years that I have encountered a camera that didn't have proper XLR inputs. >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 2007-01-20 03:15:40 -0500, "Soundhaspriority" <nowhere.RemoveThis@nowhere.org> said: > I was hoping someone could recommend an inline pad that would take the > line-out on the 302 down to mike level. http://www.dplay.com/book/pgs2e/pads.pdf -- Jay Rose CAS tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line. >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: Re: scratch track on consumer camera? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 2007-01-19 22:04:48 -0500, AdmNaismith DeleteThis @adelphia.net said: > If it is truly a scratch track, just turn on the on-board mic. On the plus side: it's apt to sound so awful that pix editors won't assume it's the actual track. Well, most of the ones I work with might not... On the negative one: between room verb and acoustic delay in long shots, it's real hard to use it as a sync reference. -- Jay Rose CAS tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line. >> Stay informed about: scratch track on consumer camera?

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