standard/double/super 8 questions

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"sivananda" <maha.mrtyunjaya.RemoveThis@yahoo.it> wrote in message
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> In article <1192984922.667616.295540.RemoveThis@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> "Dwight D. Eisenhower" <rottedHonda.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > 1. It appears that Super 8 sound film cartridges, and Super 8 silent
> > cartridges, are slightly different sizes- the sound cartridge being
> > larger- is this true ?
>
> Yes.
>
> >
> > 2. Does anyone out there still reload standard/double 8 magazines ?
> > (the oval metal cartridges that flip)
>
> Don't know. Double 8 was just 16mm that was slit after processing. There
> is a company, Pro 8mm, <http://www.pro8mm.com/main.php> that slits 35mm
> movie film to Super-8.
>
> >
> > 3. What's a good Super 8 projector that has sound, that is
> > affordable ? (under $500)
>
> A very good Chinon can be had on eBay for less than $500.00
>
> >
> > 4. The old "open spool" type standard/double 8- how did they load/
> > unload the cameras, so that the film wasn't exposed to ambient
> > sunlight, etc. and the images ruined, or the virgin film ruined,
> > during the process ? i.e. how were the "daylight spools" used ?
>
> Don't fully remember; there may have been a short backing on each end
> which protected the rest of the spool when flipping and re-threading
>
> >
> > thanks all in advance
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>
> --sivananda
>
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Dwight D. Eisenhower <rottedHonda.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> 4. The old "open spool" type standard/double 8- how did they load/
> unload the cameras, so that the film wasn't exposed to ambient
> sunlight, etc. and the images ruined, or the virgin film ruined,
> during the process ? i.e. how were the "daylight spools" used ?
>
> thanks all in advance

Twenty five foot spools had a cardboard band around the film, this was
used as an address label when returning it, it also enabled a degree of
light tightness when the film canister was opened.

To load a 25 ft (50 ft after turning, developing, and splitting) you
would go to a shady place, open the camera, then the canister, remove
cardboard band and load the film into the camera. This normally involved
putting the full spool on the spindle, feeding film into either a take
up mechanism (which would pull the film through to the take up spool,
for you to attach) or manually threading it through the mechanism,
attaching to take up spool, and closing gate and camera door.
After the first half was exposed, you'd find a shady place, the film
spool would be removed from the take up position, flipped over and
placed on the feed spool, that spool being put on the take up spindle.
Feed through, etc, shoot other half.

When the film was completely exposed, you'd unload it in a shady place,
keeping the film tight on the spool, put the cardboard band on it. Put
it in its canister, envelope, and post it to the film company. With
practice you wouldn't lose more than 1-2 feet of film to daylight, if
that.


Twenty five foot spools were overlength to allow for the loss of film at
each end. Hundred foot spools were about the same.

There was a time I could do this blind, inside a blackout bag (zipped
compartment with two light tight tubes you put your arms through. Also
known as Granny's knickers.)
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great info- thanks


"Michael Dines" <michaeldines DeleteThis @NO_SPICED_HAMblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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> Dwight D. Eisenhower <rottedHonda DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > 4. The old "open spool" type standard/double 8- how did they load/
> > unload the cameras, so that the film wasn't exposed to ambient
> > sunlight, etc. and the images ruined, or the virgin film ruined,
> > during the process ? i.e. how were the "daylight spools" used ?
> >
> > thanks all in advance
>
> Twenty five foot spools had a cardboard band around the film, this was
> used as an address label when returning it, it also enabled a degree of
> light tightness when the film canister was opened.
>
> To load a 25 ft (50 ft after turning, developing, and splitting) you
> would go to a shady place, open the camera, then the canister, remove
> cardboard band and load the film into the camera. This normally involved
> putting the full spool on the spindle, feeding film into either a take
> up mechanism (which would pull the film through to the take up spool,
> for you to attach) or manually threading it through the mechanism,
> attaching to take up spool, and closing gate and camera door.
> After the first half was exposed, you'd find a shady place, the film
> spool would be removed from the take up position, flipped over and
> placed on the feed spool, that spool being put on the take up spindle.
> Feed through, etc, shoot other half.
>
> When the film was completely exposed, you'd unload it in a shady place,
> keeping the film tight on the spool, put the cardboard band on it. Put
> it in its canister, envelope, and post it to the film company. With
> practice you wouldn't lose more than 1-2 feet of film to daylight, if
> that.
>
>
> Twenty five foot spools were overlength to allow for the loss of film at
> each end. Hundred foot spools were about the same.
>
> There was a time I could do this blind, inside a blackout bag (zipped
> compartment with two light tight tubes you put your arms through. Also
> known as Granny's knickers.)
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