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A New Dawn

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:54 am
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Group(s),

I have some 16mm 7399 Print Stock I want to shoot in camera. I have
heard it is very slow, about 8 ASA.

That is fine, but once I'm done, do I just bring it to the lab and have
them develop it as 16mm negative or 16mm reversal?

I know I will have very blue film, since I don't want to 85 filter it
because of the speed loss.

I plan on getting it telecined as B/W so that probably won't be an
issue, right?

Thanks,
A.N.D.

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Scott Dorsey

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:22 pm
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A New Dawn <anewdawn.TakeThisOut@6url.com> wrote:
>Group(s),
>
>I have some 16mm 7399 Print Stock I want to shoot in camera. I have
>heard it is very slow, about 8 ASA.

It's also long-pitch so watch out. I think 8 ASA is a little bit
optimistic, but shoot a test with a variety of exposures and see.
Contrast will be extremely low... I don't know nominal gamma off the
top of my head but it should be on the data sheet.

>That is fine, but once I'm done, do I just bring it to the lab and have
>them develop it as 16mm negative or 16mm reversal?

7399 runs through the standard VNF chemistry. A-1 Film Labs in NYC can
process it. Forde Labs in Seattle can process it. In theory, Bono in
DC can process it but they don't seem to want to do film any more.

I _think_ it can be cross-processed in negative chemistry and you might
gain a little speed that way too, but a lot of labs will be unwilling to
cross-process. Colorlab in MD should, though.

>I know I will have very blue film, since I don't want to 85 filter it
>because of the speed loss.

I think you might want to do it anyway. But shoot a test and see. If
you are running it as reversal, you don't get the ability to correct color
as easily in printing as you do with modern negative films.

>I plan on getting it telecined as B/W so that probably won't be an
>issue, right?

Why not shoot B&W film, then? What are you trying to do?
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:35 pm
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> A New Dawn <anewdawn.TakeThisOut@6url.com> wrote:
> >Group(s),
> >
> >I have some 16mm 7399 Print Stock I want to shoot in camera. I have
> >heard it is very slow, about 8 ASA.
>
> It's also long-pitch so watch out. I think 8 ASA is a little bit
> optimistic, but shoot a test with a variety of exposures and see.
> Contrast will be extremely low... I don't know nominal gamma off the
> top of my head but it should be on the data sheet.
>
> >That is fine, but once I'm done, do I just bring it to the lab and have
> >them develop it as 16mm negative or 16mm reversal?
>
> 7399 runs through the standard VNF chemistry. A-1 Film Labs in NYC can
> process it. Forde Labs in Seattle can process it. In theory, Bono in
> DC can process it but they don't seem to want to do film any more.


Great, cool, thanks for that info...


> I _think_ it can be cross-processed in negative chemistry and you might
> gain a little speed that way too, but a lot of labs will be unwilling to
> cross-process. Colorlab in MD should, though.
>
> >I know I will have very blue film, since I don't want to 85 filter it
> >because of the speed loss.
>
> I think you might want to do it anyway. But shoot a test and see. If
> you are running it as reversal, you don't get the ability to correct color
> as easily in printing as you do with modern negative films.
>
> >I plan on getting it telecined as B/W so that probably won't be an
> >issue, right?
>
> Why not shoot B&W film, then? What are you trying to do?

I was able to get 5000 feet of it for close to nothing, less than the
price of a 400 foot roll of typical B/W.

If I can get a decent look out of it, I'll try to use it.

> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

As usual, priceless info/answer... Thanks, Scott, for your time and
sharing your knowledge.

A.N.D.
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